Enterprise is launched!

[starlifter]

by Shadowdale:

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good old 32' TV..

You must live in a European Palace or Castle, Shadowdale! If you have room for a 32 foot Television, that is!!!

PS, In the States, the Single quote (') means feet, and the double quote (") means Inches.

 

[jc011]

Originally posted by starlifter
You mean you have not seen Janeway get killed by the Borg in the final Episode yet? Then I better not tell you how the Borg outsmart Janeway and kill her in the last episode when she tried to get home to Earth. So I'll not mention other things either, like how Chakotay and Seven got Married, or how Seven was killed, because you have not seen those episodes and would not want your timeline polluted. So I'll keep quite about it .

YOU are such a cruel man!!! Seattle's RAin!!!

 

[Andu Indorin]

Getting back to "Enterprise," premier was a little slow-paced (i.e., not quite two hours of material ...), but the pacing should pick up with hour-long episodes. Like the look of the "original" Enterprise: suitably "archaic" compared to the later versions.

And now for a piece of speculation: Is sub-commander T'Pol any relation to T'Pau ("Amok Time")? If so, can we expect some sort of "alternative reality" episode which alters the fate of Spock, and therefore the future history of the Federation?

 

[starlifter]

Hey, cool you noticed the name connection, Andu! Most Vulcan women are supposedly name T'.... in honor of T'Pau. Exceptions such as for some women are sluffed off as "They weren't full blooded Vulcans, so it's OK". BTW, most men are named S__ __ __ __ (S, plus 4), such as Sarek.

 

[willemvanoranje]

Hey, Starlifter, I already knew what was gonna happen. I believe CornMaster posted it a long time ago.

 

[CornMaster]

There is only one Vuclan that doesn't have a name that starts with T or S. (That I can think of right now....but at one point I could remember 2)

And that is Valeris. She was an officer in ST6: The Undiscovered Country. Some known Vulcan nanes:
Spock
Tuvok
T'Pel
T'Pol
Stonn
Sarek
Savik
Sybok
There are more....but I can't remember them right now.

 

[Leowind]

I liked the premiere of Enterprise overall. Bakula did a better job as captain than I was anticipating. I like the British-sounding guy (in charge of the weapons-I forget his name). The feel is much more like the early days of space flight as we know it: a bunch of hot-shot cowboys who think they're invincible, and somehow prove to mostly be so. The translator gal could easily take the helpless female along for the ride bit way too far, but she spoke Klingon with very appropriate gusto and agression, so maybe she'll mellow as she gets used to being on the ship.
To nitpick: The Vulcan is definitely hot, but to be honest, I'd just as soon they left the shower scene out. It did nothing for the plot and amounted to nothing more than gratuitous soft-porn. It cheapened the entire show, IMHO (which is not to say I wasn't watching with extreme interest). Otherwise, her part was very well acted and defined. She should prove to be an interesting character in future episodes. I also feel a bit confused about the nature of space flight preceding the launching of Enterprise. The Vulcans made contact with Earth because Earth had successfully completed a Warp drive, am I correct? If so, Warp engines have existed for 100 years, yet somehow the Vulcans have kept Earth from using them? And Earth has been kept from exploring the stars for 100 years by the Vulcans, yet on their very first Starship Everything works absolutely perfectly and they find inhabited planets? Seems to me there should be some breakdowns and confusion about what to do now that they're out there for the first time. Either that, or they've been doing some exploring and experimenting despite the Vulcans (which would be more probable), in which case there's a good chance they would have met a few more species already (Maybe they have. The doctor is never explained. What species is he?)
Anyway, overall enjoyable. If it's on at 8 I'll be able to watch it. If it's on at 9, West Wing takes precedence, and I'll have to tape it and watch it later, which never seems to work well at our household.

 

[kundor]

? If so, Warp engines have existed for 100 years, yet somehow the Vulcans have kept Earth from using them? And Earth has been kept from exploring the stars for 100 years by the Vulcans, yet on their very first Starship Everything works absolutely perfectly and they find inhabited planets?

100 years before Enterprise , Cochrane invented warp. After the vulcans showed up, humans have been piddling around nearby systems at warp 1 or 2. One of the crewmen, the helmsmen, in fact was born on one of these slow ships.

The Enterprise is the first ship using a warp 5 engine, using tech learned from Vulcans and human innovation. This can go about 250x faster than a warp 2 engine, I believe. The vulcans don't especially want their little proteges out embarassing them in deep space, but the teenage humans threw a tantrum and are going to drive anyway.

 

[starlifter]

The Enterprise is the first ship using a warp 5 engine, using tech learned from Vulcans and human innovation. This can go about 250x faster than a warp 2 engine, I believe.

The warp 5 engine is faster, but not quite that much. Assuming flight at minimum power warp multiples (e.g., 2.0 and 5.0), the speed differential is (5^3)/(2^3)=125/8=15.63. So Warp 5 is a little over 15 times faster than warp 2. In other words, at warp 5, they can go in 1 day where the old slow freighters went in 15 days.

This means it presumably took a freighter about 1/2 a year to get to our nearest star, but takes the Enterprise about 12 days (at warp 5). It will be interesting to see if they can keep their "future physics" straight in this new show... Star Trek has been around so long now that their "future science" is pretty well understood by us in the 21st Century, LOL .

 

[Craterus22]

I thought I would bring this back up to the top - curious what others think after having a couple of weeks to watch the show...

I agree with some of the previous posts about how unlikely it seems that the Vulcans would have the humans under thier thumbs for a 100 years.

I also thought it was strange that the Kronos was only 4 days from earth...(does anyone know how many lightyears that is at Warp 5?)

I thought it strange also that the second in command would default to someone OUTSIDE of starfleet. I would never imagine that occuring in any realworld navy.

So far Enterprise is coming in ahead of Borgwatch by a smidgen and far ahead of DS9. I will have to wait and see a couple of seasons if it can surpass NG.

 

[starlifter]

I also thought it was strange that the Kronos was only 4 days from earth...(does anyone know how many lightyears that is at Warp 5?)

I thought it strange also that the second in command would default to someone OUTSIDE of starfleet. I would never imagine that occuring in any realworld navy.

So far, I like it much better than i assmed I would before I saw it.

At warp 5, after 4 days, one would travel 1.37 light years. Quite strange, as we have no stars that close to earth!

In the US Military, we sometimes have exchange officers, even in Combat units. They do not command a major asset, like a Wing or Squadron or Battleship or Aircraft Carrier, etc. The command would hypothetically fall to the highest ranking US officer, very similar to how a Lietenant outranks a General who is a Doctor or Lawyer (a similar analogy, as Dr/Lawyers have non-line commissions). Also, when flying a plane, the Aircraft Commander (the one legally given command of the airplane) outranks anyone else on board, including Generals, when it comes to matters of command. Similarly, a Vulcan would be the Advisor, since they carry no commission or warrant from "Star Fleet".

LOL, it would be like asking for the highest ranking alien on board each time the Captain was injured. A vulcan would need to be IN star fleet to assume command of a star fleet vessel, if the real-world model were even remotely followed!