Etnic differences

[TheDuckOfFlanders]

I am not a racist ,but i want tou ask you all if you think there are noticable differences between etnic groups.

for ex. do you think africans are faster runners than any other etnicety?Do you know some other differences between various etnic groups? or do you think all poeple over the world are fysiolicly the same?

 

[TrailblazingScot]

Yes...only fools and those than use racism as a weapon to hit people with ignore the fact that there are differences.

 

[Knight-Dragon]

The physical differences are more of a condition of the environs of the peoples in question and also their material well-being. You eat better - you grow bigger. You work physically - you perform at sports. Pre-WW2 Japs were famous as small-sized short ppl; but the young Japs today can be pretty tall, some of them. Just an e.g. and I notice the effect is also beginning to appear amongst the more prosperous ppls of Asia.

Also there're the cultural differences which are more sublimal. I guess these would also be classified under ethnic differences? There'll be diff in culture, world outlook, ethnic confidence etc etc, most of which will be hard to measure or even identify.

 

[floppa21]

Definitely. Blacks or AfricanAmericans if you prefer I believe have better endurance when it comes to running and such, but Whites or hell whatever you frickin prefer are better at speed and strength in small bursts rather than endurance... Obviously either could be overcome with proper training, but I heard this once in an argument on why Basketball players are predominantly black and Hockey is white. Could have some to do with cultural diffs also though... SKM mentioned "material well-being." Yah, Hockey is a lot more expensive to play with all the expensive equipment involved so that could be a part of it also. Black kids in low income families are less likely to be able to afford the equipment, white kids with upper class income can. Not to get too into stereotypes just yet, but that could be part of it also. And there are some blacks in the NHL and even some latinos now. Asian also. Majority is still white, but it is startin to become more diversified...

SKM made a good point on height among asians. Stereotypical asian is 4 feet tall. But they get up there nowadays. I am half korean half white and I am over 6 feet.

I think a lot of the differences are cultural and generational. You pick up nuances from parents and pass them on to your kid. Over time, they are diluted and/or lost, but it takes time. Stereotypes exsist because generally, they are accurate. But I believe they become less accurate every passing day. At least most of them anyways.

Yes there are differences, but the reasons for them are many and varied.

 

[Knight-Dragon]

"Stereotypical asian is 4 feet tall."

4 feet!? Are you sure? Seems more like typically 5 feet plus or so. I don't remember older gen Asians looking that short ......

 

[TheDuckOfFlanders]

As to differences on the physical level ,it's clear they do exist just because color differences.Are there people here that have oppinions on intellectual differences between etnic groups?Although socio/political situations are a important factor on that ,are there some here that believe that a long history of intillectual training provides some etnic groups with a more developed intellectual capacity?

 

[Knight-Dragon]

Originally posted by TheDuckOfFlanders
As to differences on the physical level ,it's clear they do exist just because color differences.Are there people here that have oppinions on intellectual differences between etnic groups?Although socio/political situations are a important factor on that ,are there some here that believe that a long history of intillectual training provides some etnic groups with a more developed intellectual capacity?

I think you are threading on dangerous ground here. Physical differences (incl skin colour) are caused by the different physical environs and also genetics; physical diff don't exist simply becos of different skin colours.
And I firmly believe that no people of any skin colour has any particular inherent genetic advantage or whatever when it comes to individual intelligence. It matters more on natural individual talent, upbringing and education and application.

 

[TheDuckOfFlanders]

orriginaly posted by SKM:
I think you are threading on dangerous ground here.

I know ,only these things are never debated because of social problems with racism.for my oppinion ,i don't think that in general one etnic group would be more potential intelligent trough it's gene's ,still i think there are genetic differences between people on the potential intelligence ,as you said:

It matters more on natural individual talent, upbringing and education and application.

withought consideration of upbringing and education ,you state that there are differences between people on natural individual talent.my question: are there etnic groups that have more of these natural individual talent's than any other entic group?

Yes i'm still walking on thin ice here.

 

[floppa21]

SKM, I was just being general and a little sarcastic about the height... Not literal...

Intelligence matter I agree with SKM. It's all on upbringing and such. If you study hard and have kids and make them study hard and have kids, your great great grandkids will be geniuses? Yah.

But on genetics and skin color, what about the "sickle cell anemia"? If I spelled it right, isn't that an "African/Black Only" disease? Why is it? There's probably other examples of this idea, but that's the one I thought of. Now, Asians have higher rate of stomach cancer from the hot pepper they eat, Americans have higher rate of heart disease from the Supersized Fries they eat, but that's different, no? It's not genetics.

 

[Lefty Scaevola]

Most of the percieved physical differences between races are false sterotypes base on anecdotal observation, but unnsupported by scientific evidence. Those that are documented between, say African and Eropean race, are all related to the diffences in environment between tropical Africa and temperate & arctic Europe, with also a spectrum of degree of difference from south to north among the Europeans. EG: more melanin in the skin and hair of Africans to protect against sun; higher incidence of scycle cell anemia genes among African, although fatal when expressed, when recessive, it protects against malaria; lighter skin and more capability for producing vitamin D by nothern Europeans.

 

[floppa21]

Old yet Informative Fart, thanks!

 

[dreadhead7]

Thank you, Lefty, because I was truely scared as to where this topic was headed...

I get very nervous when people start talking about intellectual differences between the races. I personally belive that there are no inherant intellectual differences between the races. I belive that it's all a matter of environment, access, and upbringing.

Unfortunately, because I have been constantly bombarded all of my life with these stereotypes and others that I was expected to live up to, I am EXTREMELY competitive in the classroom. People look at me, and because I'm Black, disabled, and a woman, they expect me to fail, and are astonished when I consistently surpass my classmates in the area of academics. I do far more than what is expected of me, not only because I must bear up under this pressure, but also because education is VERY important to me.

Much of this is my fault. I live my life constantly proving to others that Black people aren't stupid, lazy, or any other stereotype you care to mention. I have spent my life educating others. I hope that what people see in me is that there are actually more similarities between the races than there are differences.

 

[TheDuckOfFlanders]

I was truely scared as to where this topic was headed...

i'm sorry ,it wasn't my intention ,i'm not a racist.And as to intelligence ,i wouldn't regard a person less because he's less intelligent.

 

[Lefty Scaevola]

Originally posted by TheDuckOfFlanders


i wouldn't regard a person less because he's less intelligent.

I would, (distinguishing between intelligence & knowledgability), but there is NO scientific evidence of intelligence differences between races of humans.

 

[CurtSibling]

Originally posted by Lefty Scaevola


I would, (distinguishing between intelligence & knowledgability), but there is NO scientific evidence of intelligence differences between races of humans.

Scottish Neds ("hoods" to Americans)
are without a doubt incredibly stupid!

FACT!

 

[TheDuckOfFlanders]

To Lefty:

by me:

i wouldn't regard a person less because he's less intelligent.

I didn't mean that on a social bases ,rather on a right's bases.As for the social factor of it ,i don't believe in an elitist social attitude.I know a lot of less intelligent ,though simple and enjoyable people as friend.No offence to them here ,it are people who are more easier to trust than a lot of intelligent people people.

But as human being's ,we have geneticly evolved thru history according to the enviroment we lived in.I wonder to what extent etnic groups in this world have genneticly differently evolved according to their specific enviroment.i don't mean this Black or white or yellow, but rather inviromental.

but there is NO scientific evidence of intelligence differences between races of humans.

Are such topic's ever investigated anyway? Understandeble there could be a taboe over this.

 

[floppa21]

Right on Dread! But ALL people can be lazy and stupid. That's the thing. IF we had contact with aliens and interstellar civs and whatnot, like star trek, the human race would probably be stereotyped by other species as lazy and stupid. Sorry, ignore me, back to topic!!!