evil leaders

Well Stalin im not sure was he Russian?

I know he was from the Caucacus region but from which part? Georgia side or Russia side?

As for his ruling over the Russian Empire - it makes sense actually given that the Soviet Union was basically the Russian Empire dominated by a communist regime instead of a tsarist one.
Ask anyone from one of the other "Soviet Republics" like Ukraine; they all followed the lead of Stalin and Moscow - the only Communist leader that told Stalin to go faff off was Tito of Yugoslavia.

And Churchill isnt as great of a stretch as using Saddam as ruler of Babylon.
Winston Churchill was an Englishman, an English MP, and Prime Minister of Britain, of which England is a part.
Granted THAT Civ should have really been called Britain not England.

I agree with you on point about the HRE and the Byzantines...
 
Stalin was Georgian, but to prove he didn't play favorites he was extra brutal to Georgia.

I despise Confederacy worship, but Jeff Davis wasn't particularly evil, just (thankfully) inept. He led a region in rebellion against the mother country? So did George Washington.
 
Stalin was Georgian, but to prove he didn't play favorites he was extra brutal to Georgia.

I despise Confederacy worship, but Jeff Davis wasn't particularly evil, just (thankfully) inept. He led a region in rebellion against the mother country? So did George Washington.
"Every society honors its live conformists, and its dead troublemakers. " - Mignon McLaughlin, The Neurotic's Notebook, 1960
 
I don't think anyone is posting here anymore, but what about Warren G. Harding for an evil American leader? He was a drunken . .. .. .. .. .. .. ., a bad president, corrupt and he bet white house china in a poker game. Irresponsible is just as bad as being evil when you are in charge of a country.
 
I don't think anyone is posting here anymore, but what about Warren G. Harding for an evil American leader? He was a drunken . .. .. .. .. .. .. ., a bad president, corrupt and he bet white house china in a poker game. Irresponsible is just as bad as being evil when you are in charge of a country.

We've had worse.

Besides, Harding is too obscure. Civ is based on popular (shallow) understanding of history.
 
Throwing in my 2 Cents
For America, and maybe some other Civilizations, I don't think there are many leaders, if any, that could be considered "evil"

I think it depends on definitions, but for Rome, I would say Caligulia. That guy was insane.

Would it be possible to expand this list to include delusional, insane, etc-type leaders?
 
Evil is subjective. Most early U.S. presidents were slave owners. Jackson and others were enthusiastic genocidaires. This is a silly debate.
 
To be honest... I don't consider Iraq to be Babylon or Italy to be Rome. But I do consider Iran to be Persia. Think about it, the country only became Iran after World War II, and people are still speaking Persian.

Therefore Saddam Hussein would be an Arabic leader, Mussolini would be an Italian leader, but Khomeini and Ahmadinejad would be Persian leaders.
 
Winston Churchill was an Englishman, an English MP, and Prime Minister of Britain, of which England is a part.
Granted THAT Civ should have really been called Britain not England.
Yes, Churchill was British, to the tip of his toes, and it SHOULD be Britain, I agree. :p And that makes me feel I can be British also, as it is not so much about where you were born. And that makes me happy, as I have not lived 1 year outside the Dominion of Canada, yet I want to be British. :p
 
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