FA Alliance Discussion; MILITARY ASPECTS

[RegentMan]

There would not be any culture buildings once Berlin has been captured.

No city we capture will have culture, so that sentence is pointless. Berlin has the possibility of becoming an okay city.

 

[GenMarshall]

No city we capture will have culture, so that sentence is pointless. Berlin has the possibility of becoming an okay city.

What plans are there for the city of Berlin?

 

[Donovan Zoi]

What plans are there for the city of Berlin?

The plan would be to add it to our empire and build on it. What German city did you have in mind, CG?

RegentMan, now may actually be a good time to post separate threads for each rival nation, to get an idea of how we want to shape the rest of ours.

 

[Donovan Zoi]

Mr. President,

What I am affraid of is of a possible declaration of war from the French even with the MA against Germany. We must stay neutral, so we don't have war in two fronts. If we declare war on Germany and France betrays us, then we will have serious problems. We don't have money to improve our troops, we don't have money to recruit more peasants nor do we have money to support an attrition war against foreign great powers. If only France declares war on us, then we will have more chances of resisting than if we have the entire world against us, because certaily Rome and Persia will enter in this war.

Sincerely,

Governor Civlord

Interesting scenario, though highly unlikely. In my experience, it is very rare that an the AI will betray an ally so quickly, although I have seen them break the alliance to make peace.

There is definitely need for caution here, no matter which road we take.

 

[Ranger99]

Actually Civlord the deal with the Alliance is 125 gold from Rome to us. That's 5 Barbarian Camps that we'd have to assault and destroy to get the same amount of moeny in one turn as well as very possibly the razing of Heidelburg, and just maybe the Capture of Berlin. If we can raze Heidelburg and Capture Berlin, our main War efforts are over and from then on use Horsemen to clean anything that's not garrisoned inside a city.

We DO have moeny to pay for the troops, but we lack some resources, which measn that it could be a little while until we have the offensive power needed to make a push on Germany.

And as DaveShack said we CANNOT allow Berlin to fall into our 'Allies' hands. To protect against this I suggest once more using Apollo as a Scout up north to moniter Troopo Movement into and out of Germany, while we can then feel for when we'll need to take Berlin before our allies do.

-Ranger99-

 

[MOTH]

Have we determined the IBT turn sequence? If we know where Germany falls in regard to France and Rome we could possibly use this to our advantage. If Germany's turn falls before either France or Rome the they could possibly weaken Germany before our assault. I'd much rather attack Berlin with 1 or 2 weakened defenders than with all of their troops fresh.

This is also relevent to DaveShack's point.

If we don't know the turn sequence then a DP will need to pay attention to what order troop movements are made during the next turnchat.

 

[Civlord]

We DO have moeny to pay for the troops, but we lack some resources, which measn that it could be a little while until we have the offensive power needed to make a push on Germany.

How many gpt? I heard that our treasure is in deficit. We will need troops, and some of them we will have to support with gpt.

And as DaveShack said we CANNOT allow Berlin to fall into our 'Allies' hands. To protect against this I suggest once more using Apollo as a Scout up north to moniter Troopo Movement into and out of Germany, while we can then feel for when we'll need to take Berlin before our allies do.

Instead of declaring war, what about ROP with the germans and the creation of a demilitarized zone surrounding Berlin with our troops? It could be interesting. Berlin will remain intact and our "allies" won't be able to attack it because we are in peace with them. That idea was proposed by Icmancin, but now I can see a good use for it.

 

[Ranger99]

The money that i'm talking about is the moeny for the creation and upgrading of two Warriors to Swrodsman, and possibly one other Warrior Upgrade, this is the 125 Gold coming from Rome for signing the alliance.

And this demilitarized zone....Do you mean surrounding Berlin with 8 units to cover everyangle of the city?

With those 8 units we could just as easily TAKE the city of Berlin, and we don't even have those 8 units yet....

-Ranger99-

 

[Civlord]

I don't know, it was only a suggestion. But Berlin will be essential to Fanatikos security, and we must make sure the AI won't take it. But if we declare war on the germans, the french may attack with that swordsman and we will have war in two fronts. We need to be cautious.

 

[Ranger99]

I believe that the French Swordsman are simply going to the Front. At the moment intelligence leads us to believe that the French have little or no troops in or near german Territory at the moment.

(I was lead to believe this by the Fact that at the siege of Leipzig the French only had a single Warrior participating in the Assault, and the Germans territory is mainly South from now razed Leipzig, so we can believe that the now dead French Warrior was their only Troops in the theatre.)

These Swordsman probably have NO intention at all of attacking us and are only on their way to attack Berlin.

If we sign the Alliance France will ahve even less of an incentive to attack us, and then our Military capabilities should sopar, and the experience avaiable to us during the war is priceless when the RDF is created, especially since after the war it will then be composed of battle Hardened troops and soldiers.

-Ranger99-

 

[Civlord]

Well, Alea Jacta est. We are going to see if this french swordsman is not going to invade Fanatikos and is simply directing towards the German front. I don't trust the AI.