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Fall From Heaven Leader's Tale - Valledia the Even

Discussion in 'Civ4 - Succession Games' started by Ozbenno, Mar 29, 2008.

  1. EverNoob

    EverNoob Prince

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    I wanted to get some concensus before continuing...

    So I've razed Gaudium, the AV holy city. We now have access to the core of Perpentach's lands. If we're going to capture them, we have to capture all 4 of them because of their strong culture.



    However, there's 2 other cities we really should capture: Straatus and Dormir. Perp is sending units in from Dormir which is really annoying, not to mention that it increases our war weariness having to kill the units he sends in.



    I was hoping we'd have copper to speed up the war. As it stands, without copper, taking all of Perps cities in a protracted war will make our war weariness go up the roof.

    So I wanted to get concensus on whether we slug it out and maybe switch out of City States when WW gets too high,
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    do we take Straatus and Dormir, then sign a peace treaty and finish Perp when we have copper.

    I'm inclined to sign the peace treaty and finish him when we get copper. It would be better for our economy.
     
  2. stuge

    stuge Emperor

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    Straatus+Domir->peace sounds good.
     
  3. Ozbenno

    Ozbenno Fly Fly Away Moderator Hall of Fame Staff

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  4. TheJopa

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    My vote for the early peace.
     
  5. Immaculate

    Immaculate unerring

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    The mage's fireballs don't make copper irrelevent? If you can do it with fireballs, i say press it... but if we really need the copper, then stop. Would it be possible to take copper from perpentach early in a protracted war? That would be the best possibility in my opinion.

    I.
     
  6. TheJopa

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    As far as I know, we only have 4 fireballs per turn which is still not enough to make copper irrelevant.. Unless we can make more mages as we go, I say early peace.
     
  7. ·Imhotep·

    ·Imhotep· Legendary Builder

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    Well, without CR promos it is hard to capture cities with high cultural defense even if the defenders are damaged by collateral damage. I'd vote for taking the two cities and come back later too - it will be a mop-up then anyway onxce we have advanced units.
     
  8. Immaculate

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    Are we (did we) take diplomatic penalties for declaring war on Perp? if we did, then it might be worth a protracted defensive war for awhile- if not- then declare peace then come back for him later.

    I.
     
  9. Immaculate

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    I'm at a conference until the 14th and won't be able to view the thread (probably, maybe i will- not sure) or play until then. Please skip me if my turn comes up before i get back.

    Thanks,
    i.
     
  10. ·Imhotep·

    ·Imhotep· Legendary Builder

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    Well, EverNoob should finish his turns anyway... ;) :)
     
  11. Rex rgis of Ter

    Rex rgis of Ter Me I'm a Creator

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    I'm in hospital so I won't be able to get the game for about a week.
     
  12. Ozbenno

    Ozbenno Fly Fly Away Moderator Hall of Fame Staff

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  13. TheJopa

    TheJopa Šumar

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    What to do now?
     
  14. ·Imhotep·

    ·Imhotep· Legendary Builder

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    Well, Ozzy or Immaculate should play from TheJopa's save...
     
  15. Ozbenno

    Ozbenno Fly Fly Away Moderator Hall of Fame Staff

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    I can take this Friday. If Immac can get to it earlier then go for it.
     
  16. Ozbenno

    Ozbenno Fly Fly Away Moderator Hall of Fame Staff

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    I missed this before, GET WELL SOON :)

    Haven't heard from Immac. I'll play tomorrow and have a report together for Friday.
     
  17. Ozbenno

    Ozbenno Fly Fly Away Moderator Hall of Fame Staff

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    OK, anyone remember what 0.31 patch we're on. I've yet to install 0.31 on the new laptop so need to be able to patch to the right level.
     
  18. ·Imhotep·

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  19. Rex rgis of Ter

    Rex rgis of Ter Me I'm a Creator

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    I'm out early and I have plenty of free time so I'll be back in the roster.:)
     
  20. TheJopa

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    I'm glad everything is fine!
     

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