"Fall Patch" announced

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Why would barbs heal post patch? They don't heal when doing nothing, so I imagine they won't heal for any reason, as a blanket statement, just as, from my understanding, Viking Fury always prevents you from losing all movement for an action when you start embarked, instead of doing it just in the place it should (when going from sea to land).

No, I can't very well imagine barbs healing. I'll say with fair confidence barbs are prevented from it in any way.
 
But that still wouldn't show us what it will be like post-patch.

What you mean is "get 25HP from pillaging", not "25% healing from pillaging"

Confused because units get 100hp, right?? So that would mean 1hp = 1%.

If that is the case then 25hp = 25% of 100 total hp.

So after the patch then it appears that a unit with 100 hp could conceivably go beyond the 100hp to 125hp??
 
great patch, though I so wish they would make bombers pillage!!!! I sooo want to bomb oil fields and infustructure........o hum..
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Confused because units get 100hp, right?? So that would mean 1hp = 1%.

If that is the case then 25hp = 25% of 100 total hp.

So after the patch then it appears that a unit with 100 hp could conceivably go beyond the 100hp to 125hp??

I think the confusion is over 25% of the bottom or top. If you have 30 health, a 25% health would be 7 or 8 HP, while 25 HP would be 25 HP. It's pretty clearly capped at 100 either way.
 
flairin said:
Confused because units get 100hp, right?? So that would mean 1hp = 1%.

If that is the case then 25hp = 25% of 100 total hp.

So after the patch then it appears that a unit with 100 hp could conceivably go beyond the 100hp to 125hp??

No, units can't exceed a maximum of 100HP.
For me, the confusion sets in when you refer to HP as a percentage because they're represented in-game as absolute numbers. So, if you say a unit heals 25%, it could conceivably be misinterpreted as as saying their Hit Points increase by 25% which is incorrect.
To give an example: Unit X has 50/100HP. It pillages a tile and now has 75/100HP. In other words it regained 25HP, but it "healed" by an increase of 50% (not 25%).

Anyway, it's semantics. I'm sure you meant the same end result as me.
 
So you are referring to the Goths?? I haven't played but it appears that you don't have to wait to see the AI doing it but can actually select this Civ!! I wonder if there is a way to nerf their healing from 100% after pillaging (as long as it isn't a road) to 25% just to see how it would play out?? Anyone out there know how to do this??

Well I was refereing to how the AI handles pillaging and healing tactically rather than the specific numbers involved and how it's balanced it is.
 
The unit cycling fix takes care of one of the few headaches I get from playing. Plenty of other good changes too. The 25% HP from pillaging is quite intriguing. So how about those Celtic Lancers then?
 
Is it out yet?
 
I'm getting very bored of waiting now. When the new Xbox Minecraft patch comes out next week, Civ really will have to fight for my limited gaming time, even with the patch!
 
I'm getting very bored of waiting now. When the new Xbox Minecraft patch comes out next week, Civ really will have to fight for my limited gaming time, even with the patch!

I am having enough trouble trying to get through this game. I don't know if i could be bothered to start a new game with the patch.
 
I believe they said "before october 24th"
(Well actually they said, I believe, "before Windows 8", which comes out on october 24th).

Although I can't remember where I read that statement.

They said it in a video. I linked the thread a few pages back. Anyway, I'm sure they don't want to detract any attention from the release of xcom, so my guess would be that it is released this Friday.
 
This open-ended waiting is annoying. I`ve stopped playing because there`s not much point until the Patch is released. Give us a precise date or just release when ready (without telling us way in advanace) and it would be easier to tolerate.
 
This open-ended waiting is annoying. I`ve stopped playing because there`s not much point until the Patch is released. Give us a precise date or just release when ready (without telling us way in advanace) and it would be easier to tolerate.

Same here. And the cold-turkey isn't good for my mental health! :(
 
This open-ended waiting is annoying. I`ve stopped playing because there`s not much point until the Patch is released. Give us a precise date or just release when ready (without telling us way in advanace) and it would be easier to tolerate.

Since the release of G&K, there have been dozens of topics here and on the 2K forums asking after a new patch. Tons of crying about a lack of communication. So, 2K goes and releases the notes for an upcoming patch and gives a release deadline (before 24 October), and now all the crying is that people have to wait for the patch.

Really?
 
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