Famous German Weapons Grand Library

[redhulkz]

1: MG-42: wow this German machinegun really kick ass of Allied and Soviet troops.

during WWII ,MG42's firing rate is 3 times faster than American's MG. it has range of 1000m and firing rate of average 1200 rpm.
its unique firing sounds really send allied troops hiding for cover once its sound is heard.
later,the American M60's design borrows heavily from MG42. this shows how power the impact of this Mg42 was.

this MG is still currently in production in some nations.
the current MG3 is the modernised direct heir to MG42.

2: Panzers: German tiger Tank and Leopard tank . i dun know much of its stats but their WWII role are enough to make them famous:ripper:


3: Battleships: the most famous of them is the Bismarck.

this ship sank Britain's symbol of naval power, the HMS Hood, effortlessly and crippled british Battleship, Prince of Wales, running for its life
the whole british Home fleet was deploy to hunt down this juggernaut.
the Bismarck was only sank by british overwhelming no. of warships goingg after it.

4: MP5 sub-machinegun: everyone knows this gun, no need to explain


pls add more German weapons and infos to this thread

 

[Cunobelin]

Im not sure but i heard that the MG-34 was superior in some ways as it was less prone to jamming and had a higher rate of fire. Can anyone confirm/deny this?

 

[Simon Darkshade]

Should perhaps be in World History, where ye will also find plenty of material debunking the Bismark myth. It's life and significance was typical of the surface fleet of the Kriegsmarine.

 

[Hurricane]

The Leopard tank is post-WW2. Maybe you were thinking about the Panther?

 

[thestonesfan]

Well, you can't forget the Me-262. Both the American and Soviet Jet airplane programs were scrapped and built up again after they had their hands on a couple of these. Actually, I don't think the Soviets had a jet program until they found these.

The Bismarck makes a nice story for both sides...but that's pretty much all it's good for. Considering it was sunk by WWI Torpedo Planes, it's pretty obvious it was overrated, and a colossal waste of resources. Can you imagine how many tanks could have been made for what the Bismarck cost? Or U-Boats? It typefies the occassional German blunder of excess for the sake of excess. Only this time, instead of a cannon, it was an entire Battleship.

Still, sinking it was an important moral victory for the British, though.

 

[Knight-Dragon]

Stealing this thread, for History...

Thread moved.

 

[golem07]

Originally posted by thestonesfan
Well, you can't forget the Me-262. Both the American and Soviet Jet airplane programs were scrapped and built up again after they had their hands on a couple of these. Actually, I don't think the Soviets had a jet program until they found these.

The Bismarck makes a nice story for both sides...but that's pretty much all it's good for. Considering it was sunk by WWI Torpedo Planes, it's pretty obvious it was overrated, and a colossal waste of resources. Can you imagine how many tanks could have been made for what the Bismarck cost? Or U-Boats? It typefies the occassional German blunder of excess for the sake of excess. Only this time, instead of a cannon, it was an entire Battleship.

Still, sinking it was an important moral victory for the British, though.

Well, the bismarch wasn't exactly sunk by this WWI torpedo.

In fact, it probably wasn't sunk by the Brits at all.

Bye,
Chris

 

[Simon Darkshade]

Effectively, the Swordfish strike was what did her in. Left her a sitting duck for KGV and Rodney. Even though the coup de grace was delivered by torpedos, and she was additionally scuttled, that is just semantics.

Bismark was sunk by the Royal Navy. It was dispatched on what was virtually a suicide mission, got a lucky shot against an aging battlecruiser, (which for all its beauty and grace, was not meant to go up against the big boys; at least not until after a planned refit) and then meandered down, losing oil until being hit by biplane torpedo bombers, and fubared.

In its single sortie, Bismark achieved nothing of note, and hurt the Kriegsmarine badly through its loss. On the other hand, Hood gave 20 years of great service to the Royal Navy.

 

[pawpaw]

was the bismark not scuttled by the germans themselves? i know after she was unable to escape the royal navy gave her a beating but i thought they were unable to sink her? she just sat there and burned?

 

[MadScot]

While there has been much effort expended on the "did the crew scuttle her" debate, I've never understood why. It's not as if the Bismark was winning and then the crew scuttled her just for kicks. She was reduced to a burning hulk with no combat capability left whatsoever. Whether the crew took matters into their own hands seems rather a pointless debate, IMO.

And, FWIW, the Swordfish was not a WW1 plane nor was the torpedo carried of WW1 vintage. The 'stringbag' was designed in 1934. The design may have looked 'old' but she outlasted her supposed replacement in service.

Regarding the Me-262. The Meteor flew in 1943. The Bell XP-59 flew in late 1942. Both RAF and USAAF had operational jet squadrons by war's end, with the RAF units having seen combat against V-1s at least. I don't think it's fair to credit captured Schwalbe's with the post war jet programmes. (And the Soviet jet development gained far more from the gifted RR Nene's I suspect)

 

[CruddyLeper]

Incidentally, most modern 7.62mm machine guns are based around the MG42 design. Examples are the US M60, the Belgian FNGP and the current German model (which I can't remember the name of right now).

Another battle winner was the German 88mm AA gun was a masterpiece.

Able to kill most tanks on the battlefield at 3,000m. Not so effective against KV1 and later Russian heavies - but still a mighty fine piece of artillery.

It certainly coped very well the the only Brit counterattack in 1940 at Arras (?) killing several Matlida's before they could close on it.

A variant was used in the Tiger and Jagdpanther AFVs.

There are STILL WORKING variants at a couple of testing labs - although the ammunition has to be custom made for it nowadays.

 

[Sodfather]

You should hit yourself for forgetting the StG44 Sturmgewehr, which was in fact the first true assault rifle. Hitler at first rejected it, but after seeing it's effectiveness on the Eastern front immediately introduced it into the army.

Looks so modern for it's time it's scary. It probably could have done some major damage, but I think the war ended before it could be in full effect.

 

[CruddyLeper]

Another very cool infantry weapon was the FG42. After Crete the German paratroopers wanted a gun that could fire full size rifle ammuntion but was compact enough to be airdropped. This is what they got.

Cool looks but very difficult to manufacture. Spare parts are still handmade to order for collectors

 

[Simon Darkshade]

Originally posted by pawpaw
was the bismark not scuttled by the germans themselves? i know after she was unable to escape the royal navy gave her a beating but i thought they were unable to sink her? she just sat there and burned?

She was dead in the water, smashed to pieces, pierced and broken by torpedos. The RN battlewagons had to turn for home because of fuel.
That, and the U Boat threat, meant that they didn't stick around to be pedantic. But they sure as silver sunk the Bismark.

 

[golem07]

Originally posted by Simon Darkshade


She was dead in the water, smashed to pieces, pierced and broken by torpedos. The RN battlewagons had to turn for home because of fuel.
That, and the U Boat threat, meant that they didn't stick around to be pedantic. But they sure as silver sunk the Bismark.

Well, I am not a naval expert what so ever so i don't claim to be right here.
But I've seen this Cameron documentary where they went down to the remains of the bismarck to examine the hull.

From what could still be seen, the experts neraly ruled out the possibility of the bismarck being sunk by "external" fire.
In fact the wreck showed clear signs of a controlled explosion from the inside, so the said.

But does it really matter, after all ?

 

[redhulkz]

some MG42 pics

 

[redhulkz]

pic 2

 

[redhulkz]

pic3

 

[Cunobelin]

I thought that the assault rifle was called the MP44?
Looks very reminiscent of the AK-47 dontcha think?

 

[CruddyLeper]

Originally posted by Cunobelin
I thought that the assault rifle was called the MP44?
Looks very reminiscent of the AK-47 dontcha think?

MP (MachinenPistole ?) was a codename to get it produced. Hitler wasn't about to approve a less than full range rifle.

When he discovered what was going on, he decided to give it his blessing (the troops loved it) so it got renamed "assault rifle" instead.

At least, that's the story I heard.