Fantastical 32-VI-27

[resorcerer]

resorcerer updated Fantastical with a new update entry:

8

potential fix to multiplayer desyncs. with this update the script runs deterministically given the same map seed on my own machine, so in theory it should do the same among multiple systems.

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[resorcerer]

resorcerer updated Fantastical with a new update entry:

8a

Just forgot to update the version number in the .modinfo, it is now 8

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[Johnnyx1603]

Great mod mate, i'm having so much fun with it. I have a question though. Witch parameters in Fantastical.lua should i change to get more rivers and marches. I usualy play with four fractals and four continents and witchever setting i set for rivers I i only get one long per continent or few one tile ones. Also, almost no marches on wet setting.

So, in conclusion, Iwant green damp world with many rivers. Any tips would be appreciated.

 

[resorcerer]

resorcerer updated Fantastical with a new update entry:

9

Adds the Region Size option. Setting it to "Tiny" is intended to create smoother Realistic Climate maps.

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[resorcerer]

Witch parameters in Fantastical.lua should i change to get more rivers and marches. I usualy play with four fractals and four continents and witchever setting i set for rivers I i only get one long per continent or few one tile ones. Also, almost no marches on wet setting.

So, in conclusion, Iwant green damp world with many rivers. Any tips would be appreciated.

I think at the moment the amount of marshes doesn't depend on how wet the map is, but because they can only occur on grasslands, really dry maps will probably have fewer marsh tiles. I should probably tie marshes to rainfall in some way. If you want to change the script, line 2933 (in version 9)

a.marshMinHexRatio = 0.015

is what you want. This is the target fraction of total land tiles to be marshes.

The amount of river tiles *is* tied to rainfall. I suggest you set Rainfall to Arboria and Temperature to Hot, if you aren't already.

 

[resorcerer]

resorcerer updated Fantastical with a new update entry:

10

- number of marsh tiles dependent on global rainfall
- map size increases if there isn't predicted to be enough land per civilization
- faster river generation
- large islands reduced from 1-3 polygons to 1-2 polygons
- fixed a bug that often placed jungles at very high latitudes

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[resorcerer]

resorcerer updated Fantastical with a new update entry:

11

- put marshes back on the map (oops)
- test to determine whether to enlarge the map to give civs more room now uses the right values of random map options

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[resorcerer]

resorcerer updated Fantastical with a new update entry:

12

- fixed random map options always choosing first available option. this might cause desyncs in cross-platform multiplayer games, because Civ's RNG is unavailble when map size is being decided, and Lua's RNG has to be used
- fixed bug with wrapping climate realism test maps for deciding map size

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[resorcerer]

resorcerer updated Fantastical with a new update entry:

13

- add reefs (rise and fall)

- reduce number of river segments blocked on both sides with mountains

- only use Lua's RNG when necessary (when there are random map options, or when wrapping is turned off)

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[resorcerer]

resorcerer updated Fantastical with a new update entry:

14

- added Rivers option to control amount of river-adjacent tiles on the map

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[Fuichis]

Would it be possible to have a map plenty of deserts and rainforest alike?
I have been watching the LUA file and i managed to have more rivers by modifing some parameters, but i don´t manage to do so with rainforest (I have enough desert but I want more rainforest without having less desert).

 

[resorcerer]

Setting the temperature to Jurassic is as close as you can get. If you edit the Lua file and set the Jurassic temperatureMin to 89 instead of 43, this should result in a map of just desert, grassland, and rainforest. Because of the way the climate system works in this script, there's no way to have a map of exclusively rainforest and desert, sorry.

 

[Fuichis]

ok, thanks. I think that is close to what i want.

 

[yanraabe]

Hi resorcerer, first of all many thanks for this awesome mod, it's great fun to play with!!
I first thought this question would be too specific, but some of the stuff you answered here shows me that you're the right one to ask... Is there any way to change the balance between Woods and Rainforest from the 50/50 it is? If I'd like, for example, to have 80% Woods and just 20% Rainforest, do you by any chance know if there is anywhere I can change the settings on that?
Thanks in advance!
Oh, and an easier question for you as well! Is there a difference between "many short rivers" vs "few long rivers" for the overall number of river tiles?

 

[resorcerer]

Is there any way to change the balance between Woods and Rainforest from the 50/50 it is? If I'd like, for example, to have 80% Woods and just 20% Rainforest, do you by any chance know if there is anywhere I can change the settings on that?

Hm, I would say just lower the temperature to Cold, but it seems I set that a bit too cold, and there will be almost no rainforest on a Cold map. If you want to edit the script, just change

[3] = { name = "Cold", values = {1.4, 0, 67},

to

[3] = { name = "Cold", values = {1.4, 0, 80},

or so.

Oh, and an easier question for you as well! Is there a difference between "many short rivers" vs "few long rivers" for the overall number of river tiles?

Nope. Same number of river tiles.

 

[yanraabe]

Thanks!
So the ratio is directly dependent of the Plains vs Grassland ratio?
I enjoy playing with "Arborial" and "Jurassic", so it's basically full-on with Rainforest and Woods, without the hassle of Tundra, Snow or Desert. In that scenario, what would you recommend?

 

[resorcerer]

So the ratio is directly dependent of the Plains vs Grassland ratio?

I did a weird thing and made Temperature and Rainfall not work exactly like they do in the game's included map scripts. If you take a look at the climategrid.png I posted a few posts up, Temperature and Rainfall just crop that graph of terrains and features. "Cold" for example chops off the graph at 67 maximum temperature, meaning 1/3 of the right side of the graph isn't used (normally, the maximum temperature and rainfall are 99).

 

[yanraabe]

Thanks for sticking with me on this! I'm impressed by that climategrid.png, but my tiny brain gets overwhelmed before I can come to a logical conclusion as to what that means for me...
Here's my question: Is there a place in the script (or in the original game files?) where I can (without messing things up), change a number - or a few numbers! - just so there's going to be more woods and less rainforest if I play with "arboria" and "jurassic" settings? And if there is, where can I find that place?
Thanks so much, and sorry to be a pain.

 

[resorcerer]

find

[7] = { name = "Jurassic", values = {0.7, 43, 99},

and change it to

[7] = { name = "Jurassic", values = {0.7, 60, 99},

or possibly increase that same number even more, like to 70?

 

[resorcerer]

more woods and less rainforest if I play with "arboria" and "jurassic" settings?

Oops! I read this as "more rainforest and less woods".

[7] = { name = "Jurassic", values = {0.7, 43, 99},

should be more like

[7] = { name = "Jurassic", values = {0.7, 43, 75},

if you want more woods.