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Faster unit production

Discussion in 'Civ4 - Strategy & Tips' started by Tobiyogi, Oct 25, 2019.

  1. Tobiyogi

    Tobiyogi Prince

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    Are the whip-rules for wonders different? In my recent game, I was surprised that - while trying to whip The Oracle - 2 pop would seemingly NOT provide 60 hammers. Screenshot attached. I am only missing 40 something hammers, but still cannot whip for 2 pop....

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  2. AcaMetis

    AcaMetis King

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    Certain buildings, like wonders, are indeed penalized and get less :hammers: per pop. That's why you often see people whipping into wonders, rather than whipping wonders directly - overflow is not penalized, so whipping, say, a worker with max overflow will put in more hammers than whipping the wonder directly. Of course it does take longer to set up/do in terms of turns, so if you really need to finish a wonder right now just eat the penalty.
     
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  3. sampsa

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    15:hammers: per pop for world wonders IIRC. 22,5 or 20 for national wonders?
     
  4. AcaMetis

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    It depends on the wonder, I believe, some are more penalized than others. Someone posted a full list at some point, but I don't recall where.

    EDIT: Found it, just needed a quick search :scan::
     
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  5. Tobiyogi

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    Good to know. I would only whip a wonder in very urgent cases or when the worked tiles are rather bad, like in the shown example.
    So all National Wonders can be whipped for 20H/pop and the most relevant Great Wonders for 15H/pop.
     
  6. gavenkoa

    gavenkoa Warlord

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    Another nice article: https://forums.civfanatics.com/threads/vocum-sineratio-the-whip.193659/

     
  7. Kaitzilla

    Kaitzilla Lord Croissant

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    Oh ya, units start decaying after 10 turns and buildings after 50.
    That 1:hammers: Barracks can stay around for a loooong time waiting to get whipped.

    Good memories.
    The 1st year I played this game, I didn't know you could move things around in the build queue.
    I was so embarrassed when I finally learned.
     
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  8. Anysense

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    I had not realized that slavery can be useful until I got to Immortal. I played my first Deity game with only vague understanding of whipping mechanichs, having used it before in a rather erratic manner. I was so scared to use the whip on a large scale, that I carefully planned whipping and research phases and finally learned, that slavery is exceptionally powerful tool!
     
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