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Favorite Aggressive Leader?

Discussion in 'Civ4 - General Discussions' started by Legal_My_Deagle, Oct 25, 2007.

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Aggressive leader?

Poll closed Dec 24, 2007.
  1. Alexander

    9 vote(s)
    9.9%
  2. Boudica

    17 vote(s)
    18.7%
  3. Genghis Khan

    4 vote(s)
    4.4%
  4. Kublai Khan

    7 vote(s)
    7.7%
  5. Hammurabi

    6 vote(s)
    6.6%
  6. Monty

    3 vote(s)
    3.3%
  7. Ragnar

    30 vote(s)
    33.0%
  8. Shaka

    12 vote(s)
    13.2%
  9. Stalin

    1 vote(s)
    1.1%
  10. Tokugawa

    2 vote(s)
    2.2%
  1. Legal_My_Deagle

    Legal_My_Deagle Warlord

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    Keeping in mind the trait combo and the UB and UU.

    Mine might be Shaka but I am somewhat undecided right now.
     
  2. Jormungandr

    Jormungandr Chieftain

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    Ragnar. Aggressive + Financial for tech-whoring = ouch.
     
  3. AfterShafter

    AfterShafter Deity

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    BoomShaka, Ragnar, The Hammer, and Boadacia in that order. Honorable mentions go to Monty and the mighty Tokes.
     
  4. GT_OKEZ

    GT_OKEZ Warlord

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    Alexander 0 0%
    Boudica 0 0%
    Genghis Khan 0 0%
    Kublai Khan 1 25.00%
    Hammurabi 0 0%
    Monty 0 0%
    Ragnar 2 50.00%
    Shaka 1 25.00%
    Stalin 0 0%
    Tokugawa

    I'm going to have to go with Ragnar on this one . I usually don't play an Aggresive civ but Ragnar's Agg/Fin can really make a deadly combo for war .
    I would figure the Khans are an easy pick here . Genghis is specifically designed to wage wars and Kublai can wage wars and be a land hog at the same time .

    Boudica is also designed specifically for warmongering ( I see no other use for her other than constant rushes and military , very FUN to play with ) but you need to compensate for economy to be able to sustain Boudica's wrath .
     
  5. bonafide11

    bonafide11 Worker

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    Shaka, without a doubt...
     
  6. Bhruic

    Bhruic Emperor

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    Favourite to play, or favourite to see in a game?

    Bh
     
  7. Legal_My_Deagle

    Legal_My_Deagle Warlord

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    Favorite to play as
     
  8. lauralaura

    lauralaura Chieftain

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    I just recently got BTS, so I'm not terribly familiar with the other new leaders, but I just played my first game as Boudica. If you're in the mood for non-stop war, she's just great. Just snag an early religion (which she's well-positioned to do), build the shrine, and let loose the holy war that never ends. Never have I seen such a huge army of highly-promoted units.

    Her UU leaves something to be desired, unfortunately -- a praetorian it isn't. But everything else about her is top-notch for a game of plunder and conquest.
     
  9. Supr49er

    Supr49er 2011 Thunderfall Cup

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    Shaka. Gotta love those fast Impis and a barracks that reduces city maintenance 20%. :worship:
     
  10. Lance of Llanwy

    Lance of Llanwy King

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    Hammurabi. Agg/Org is just...well, perfect.
     
  11. Frostyboy

    Frostyboy Never Beaten

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    Boudica. You could afford to phrase the Question a bit clearer.
     
  12. Supr49er

    Supr49er 2011 Thunderfall Cup

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    A really good thing about the Celtic UU is that you get your swordsman unit without iron. You can build them with copper! :D
     
  13. johnny_rico

    johnny_rico one more turn addict

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    impi's rule!
     
  14. DigitalBoy

    DigitalBoy Emperor

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    Pure warmongering: Kublai Khan

    Creative actually goes a long way for fighting early wars. Not having to spend hammers on monuments (or beakers on religious techs) is 30 more hammers you can use on something else. Expansive might seem like a better choice since fast granaries means faster growth which means more whipping, but I'm convinced that Creative is way better. Not every city needs a granary to grow faster than whipping unhappiness goes away, and the ones that do can use the hammers they save on skipping monuments to build them faster anyway.

    Balanced game: Alexander

    Philosophical is a favorite of mine. I love great people, I love generating GPPs, I'm always trying to get another great person. And I love to capture an enemy capital and convert it into a great people farm.
     
  15. lauralaura

    lauralaura Chieftain

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    True, but once you get it, it's only very marginally better than a standard-issue swordsman. Which, with the agressive thing going on, is perfectly adequate, but it's not the unstoppable behemoth that the praetorian is.
     
  16. SpiderMinky

    SpiderMinky Chieftain

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    one of my best warmongergames was as Tokugawa, he may not be great as an AI but if a human plays him and techs with him well....
    :cool:
     
  17. Omegon3

    Omegon3 Prince

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    Being a basic unwarlike player, I have to look Raggy's finances BUT... I really like the philosophical leaders and all the great leaders they get so that puts Alexander high on my list. His phalanx might not be the match of a berserker, but I like Alex's (hope he doesn't mind me being informal) special building -- it rocks!! Plus, I really like the amount of time it takes to build universities with good ol' Alex!!
     
  18. Permanganate

    Permanganate Chieftain

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    Shaka. Not because I like his second trait (it sucks) but because of the Zulus' outstanding UB and good UU.
     
  19. Supr49er

    Supr49er 2011 Thunderfall Cup

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    No doubt that Praets rule their era. But the Gallic Warriors are growing on me - you get the Guerilla I,II,III upgrade path not available to other Melee units. :clap:
     
  20. Polycrates

    Polycrates Emperor

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    Shaka Shaka Shaka! The best UU and UB in the game, and amazing synergy between his traits, UU and UB. Tied with Brennus for my favourite leader in the game, and he's infinitely cooler.

    Monty would be second, since Spiritual is just so good and the Sacrificial Altar is a fantastic UB. With Woodsman III, jags are actually pretty decent now too.

    Ragnar third for his synergy and enjoyably different playstyle.

    Much agreed! Since you don't need iron, you can potentially build Gallics the very second Iron Working is researched and have a few to really beef up an early axerush and slice through hilltop-holy-city-capitals like butter. Plus not needing iron is just nice anyway.
    And the guerrilla pathway fricking rocks. GII for speed and harassment plus rocksolid defense on hills, GIII for whatever. Seriously, GIII is possibly the best promo in the game, and you can get it at 4xp on a city raiding unit - that's awesome.
    I prefer Brennus to Boudica though :D
     

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