Feedback and suggestions on UI

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You're completely right, my bad. What I mean is rather the base resources, like Wood and Stone, being converted to other things rather than what is needed for Construction (usually Materiel). In screenshot below, Baghdad produces Wooden clubs and Timber amongst other things, while efficiency of Builder production is low.

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• Another thing I've noticed just now is that Builders and Settlers keep appearing on and disappearing from the list of production choices. Some turns I can see them and pick them in the list, other times they are completely missing. In the screenshot game above, where I started with a Carpenter, Builders appeared early. But in another game where I started with a Stonemason instead, the Builder and Settler rarely appeared in my list.

• When I'm producing buildings, and other units, the "Resources required per construction turn" stays the same, regardless of efficiency. But when I'm producing Builders, the Materiel required per turn fluctuates every turn. Is it supposed to work like that?

 

Fair enough, it seems to work as intended. I guess it just takes some time for a newbie to figure out where the resources are going
I love the new icons under the city banners btw!

On the resource tooltips it lists the Stock, but it would be useful to also display how much of each resource that was produced by the City last turn. (Meaning the total production value, that can be viewed in the Detailed resource tab).
For e.g. currently it says:

• Materiel 18/180 (arrow) -2 (0.48 -0.02)

I'd prefer if the current City output was listed as well, like:

• Materiel 18/180 (arrow) -2 (0.48 -0.02) City production: +12

OR​

• Materiel [+12/turn] Stock: 18/180 (arrow) -2 (0.48 -0.02)

Hmmm. I think you need to be able to select Units for which resources aren't currently available, except of course Units that require resources that aren't produced at all or in stock. Of course, you can't have all the units in the game in the list all the time, but it's annoying when Settlers and Builders that you've already started on disappear, until you choose to build something that requires less Materiel.

See screenshots below, where I've been producing a Settler for a few turns. Then I switch to Peltast and the Settler disappears for 1 turn. And Builder only becomes available after building the Peltast for 2 turns, which I guess is due to enough Materiel being stocked again.

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I understand, but I think that production per turn is important enough to always be displayed. But it depends on if it remembers your preference. I mean, do you have to click to switch to detailed view every time? Without memory, then I'd prefer it to be displayed always.

Yes, I like it better with the "+" in front but I also think it would be even more (newbie) user friendly if you add "/turn" after the number. Having an icon for the source of the resource is a nice touch. It might be misleading if the value includes imports, but otherwise I'm all for it.

The only thing I'd change is to keep the name of the resource next to the icon, furthest to the left.

Also, it would be better to keep the stock values together with the arrow-icon and the value of change. Having them separated is confusing.

Something like:

[Icon] & [Resource name] & " - (" & [Source icon] & Production per turn] & ") - (" & [Stock numbers] & [Arrow icon] & [Change value] & ") - (" & [Economic stuff] & ")"

If the mod remembers your preference for Detailed view, then you could probably remove [Resource name] from the simple view. But then Detailed view needs to be default.

Those are my preferences, idk about other players.

 

Looks promising!
I started a new game this morning and found the current tooltips helpful. Well done! Overall I'm really enjoying all the new mechanics in the mod.

Some issues and suggestions regarding the UI:

• I don't know which included UI mod that shows "worked" tiles when you mouse-over the City banner, but it seems to disrupt/cancel choosing tiles to work. When it does, I have to select a unit, then the city again, and click the Citizen icon again in order to assign Citizens. All the while avoiding to mouse-over the City banner.
• Food tab: Maybe it could show City production/import/export of Food, as well as consumption?
• When units are standing on the same tile as the City their icon usually covers the smaller icons. Is it possible to change the order of those small icons, to always be on top?

 

Now I've tried the latest version, for a quick test. You asked for feedback regarding the UI and I'd suggest changing the Icons for the Research fields.

1. I would prefer to have simpler and clearer icons, similar to how the resources have a distinct background colour to separate the different classes (luxury = purple, bonus = yellow, strategic = red) and you have the distinct colours for all the different districts and city-state types (campus = blue, encampment = red, theater square = bright purple etc). The same logic could be applied for research fields. I think using colours and simpler icons will help the player/user a lot. The Unit icons, white silhouette symbols are good, but could be improved by a dark border, or dark background. Black on white works fine for e.g.

Attached are some examples of how you could use colours and icons to bring greater clarity, in my opinion.

2. I also have a suggestion when it comes to the resources listed in your cities, the screenshot in your post above is a good example of such a list. I belive increasing the size of the icons would be the best improvement. Because it's difficult to distinguish between the icons when they're so tiny. I know increasing the icon sizes will require more space for the tooltip windows, but I think it's worth it.

 

Something like this (variant 5):

 

Hello, that forest looks really nice and dense. Does that exist in simply mod form or is it part of the entire overhaul?

 

Alright, I see.