Feud IV: The Great Revision
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Daedalists and Vodkarists make no claims as to our divinity, they are philosophies, Allah does not despise philosophies.
The Grand Master of Navalism himself mentioned he would acknowledge the divinity of Allah should I prove our divinity through our manifestation by striking down Stalin, which we have done. He should honour his pledge and do as he said.
Rahmanist Islam acknowledges Allah and rightfully rejected Stalin as the imposter he was, as we are Allah it accepts our divinity (proven through our smiting of Stalin) EDIT: even considering it rejected our manifestation it still proclaims to worship Allah, and as we are what we are it thus is permissable in its worship of us.
Stalin and Stalinism has been laid low and his divinity disproven. His ideology of tyranny and oppression, born from the megalomania of a false god and a false religion has been cast aside. All who followed him thinking him to be Allah, to be us, should now rightly turn to the worship of Allah in truth, turning away from the mere imitation of us that was the imposter Stalin, who was in no sense holy, and is in no sense Allah.
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Communism thus remains as the only ideology of significance (not discredited) that refuses to recognise Allah manifested before it. It alone of all ideologies rejects on the face of things the our divine manifestation. Thus we now see you as representative of this ideology making a rant not on what we said to you before but on an unvalidated assumption of violence making apocalyptic claims of violence with no base whatsoever. Violence comes from the rejection of Allah as we saw with Stalin, and it is from rejection of allah, either through obstinancy in following Stalin or from the blindness of yourself that violence will come.
You also make a baseless claim that Allah would establish an official Church, do you not listen to Allah, we have said already that the fullness of truth is hidden to all but Allah, all faiths which worship allah and follow his fundamental teachings are to be tolerated as brother faiths to ones own, each watched and judged by Allah, the most gracious, most merciful. Your assumption that Allah would establish a Church is fallacious. Russia, if it rightly recognises Allah incarnate, would thus in truth have freedom of religion. For all true religion follows Allah as it sees him, and follows the teachings he has laid down. Even those who venerate spirits as intermediaries to Allah worship Allah in truth if they follow his teachings and recognise that there is no god but Him.
Thus to the communists. Allah finds nothing that angers him in your ideology but your grievous error of rejecting Him. We thus call upon you to recognise that Allah stands before you. Indeed in recognising Allah you find the surest way to establishing your workers paradise, for it is by the guiding hand of Allah and His providence that all things find completion. For all that angers Allah and invokes his rage finds only its destruction, as the fall of Stalin attests.
The Grand Master of Navalism himself mentioned he would acknowledge the divinity of Allah should I prove our divinity through our manifestation by striking down Stalin, which we have done. He should honour his pledge and do as he said.
Rahmanist Islam acknowledges Allah and rightfully rejected Stalin as the imposter he was, as we are Allah it accepts our divinity (proven through our smiting of Stalin) EDIT: even considering it rejected our manifestation it still proclaims to worship Allah, and as we are what we are it thus is permissable in its worship of us.
Stalin and Stalinism has been laid low and his divinity disproven. His ideology of tyranny and oppression, born from the megalomania of a false god and a false religion has been cast aside. All who followed him thinking him to be Allah, to be us, should now rightly turn to the worship of Allah in truth, turning away from the mere imitation of us that was the imposter Stalin, who was in no sense holy, and is in no sense Allah.
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Communism thus remains as the only ideology of significance (not discredited) that refuses to recognise Allah manifested before it. It alone of all ideologies rejects on the face of things the our divine manifestation. Thus we now see you as representative of this ideology making a rant not on what we said to you before but on an unvalidated assumption of violence making apocalyptic claims of violence with no base whatsoever. Violence comes from the rejection of Allah as we saw with Stalin, and it is from rejection of allah, either through obstinancy in following Stalin or from the blindness of yourself that violence will come.
You also make a baseless claim that Allah would establish an official Church, do you not listen to Allah, we have said already that the fullness of truth is hidden to all but Allah, all faiths which worship allah and follow his fundamental teachings are to be tolerated as brother faiths to ones own, each watched and judged by Allah, the most gracious, most merciful. Your assumption that Allah would establish a Church is fallacious. Russia, if it rightly recognises Allah incarnate, would thus in truth have freedom of religion. For all true religion follows Allah as it sees him, and follows the teachings he has laid down. Even those who venerate spirits as intermediaries to Allah worship Allah in truth if they follow his teachings and recognise that there is no god but Him.
Thus to the communists. Allah finds nothing that angers him in your ideology but your grievous error of rejecting Him. We thus call upon you to recognise that Allah stands before you. Indeed in recognising Allah you find the surest way to establishing your workers paradise, for it is by the guiding hand of Allah and His providence that all things find completion. For all that angers Allah and invokes his rage finds only its destruction, as the fall of Stalin attests.
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Thus you have made your free choice to reject Allah manifested. However Allah is the gracious, the merciful and knows that even in your blindness you still worship Him, for Allah is Allah, and even those who do not comprehend His manifestation but worship him nonetheless are permissable to Him.
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Allah's name is, indeed, Allah. That is his name.
This guy's name is Allah. The True God's Name is Allah. Make the obvious connection.
(Megalomaniac mother named Mary, or actual manifestation
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This guy's name is Allah. The True God's Name is Allah. Make the obvious connection.
(Megalomaniac mother named Mary, or actual manifestation
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Vadkarians are also Communists, if I am correct. And last I heard the Rahmanists believe you a false prophet with good intentions. The only sect that I have found to support is is the one established by Mirza Nuri, but even he hasn't said such. And I can't remember a time the Grand Master ever said that? Stalinism is still a sect of Islam also, and thus has legitimate claim to a church as much as you. Whether people decide it is the right one to worship is their business, we cannot got and say that for them. That bring tyranny, just like the one we overthrew.
And to answer you why we do not support this, Religion is used as a way to control people, and to blind them. While I am not saying you aren't a god, what I mean is that religion was used by Stalin to reinforce his claim to be chief, isn't it so? Who knows, you might decree that that tour current leader is blasphemous, and call upon all of Islam to overthrow him. Then, we basically have a theocracy in place, with the final word coming from you. If you truly want this in place, how about a vote from the people of Moscow?
People of Moscow, which proposal do you support? Allah's, mine, or even a new one?
And to answer you why we do not support this, Religion is used as a way to control people, and to blind them. While I am not saying you aren't a god, what I mean is that religion was used by Stalin to reinforce his claim to be chief, isn't it so? Who knows, you might decree that that tour current leader is blasphemous, and call upon all of Islam to overthrow him. Then, we basically have a theocracy in place, with the final word coming from you. If you truly want this in place, how about a vote from the people of Moscow?
People of Moscow, which proposal do you support? Allah's, mine, or even a new one?
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:govern yourselves according to the precepts of Allah, for man has been given intelligence to look after its own governance
:Allah's dominion is spiritual and universal, no earthly nation shalt be ruled directly by Him, for he is the most high, the gracious, the merciful
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You need to look at the teachings of Allah more closely. It is not the way of Allah to govern man, it is the way of Allah to lay down his teachings so that man may govern itself looking always to his guidance. If there was a blasphemous leader than it is mans folly to reject Allah, and Allah the inscrutable would not intervene save through the unknowable judgements of the hereafter excluding a re-emergence of a tyranny the likes of stalin.
Furthermore you repeat the fallacious claim that Allah is founding a Church. Allah does no such thing for Allah is the most high, and the fullness of truth is known only to him. It is up to mankind to establish vehicles to reach closer to him and to proclaim the teachings of Allah, and whatever philosophy they derive from those fundamental teachings.
Finally you make your presumptions as to the intentions of Allah based on the intentions of what has been shown to be a false god, drunk with his desire for power. Your presumptions on religion and Allahs suggestions are thus inherently flawed in that they are based not on Allah, but on a tyrant who has nothing whatsoever to do with Allah, with true religion or with holiness. In effect you decieve yourself and Russia by saying Allah wants somethign other than what he is actually saying.
:Allah's dominion is spiritual and universal, no earthly nation shalt be ruled directly by Him, for he is the most high, the gracious, the merciful
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You need to look at the teachings of Allah more closely. It is not the way of Allah to govern man, it is the way of Allah to lay down his teachings so that man may govern itself looking always to his guidance. If there was a blasphemous leader than it is mans folly to reject Allah, and Allah the inscrutable would not intervene save through the unknowable judgements of the hereafter excluding a re-emergence of a tyranny the likes of stalin.
Furthermore you repeat the fallacious claim that Allah is founding a Church. Allah does no such thing for Allah is the most high, and the fullness of truth is known only to him. It is up to mankind to establish vehicles to reach closer to him and to proclaim the teachings of Allah, and whatever philosophy they derive from those fundamental teachings.
Finally you make your presumptions as to the intentions of Allah based on the intentions of what has been shown to be a false god, drunk with his desire for power. Your presumptions on religion and Allahs suggestions are thus inherently flawed in that they are based not on Allah, but on a tyrant who has nothing whatsoever to do with Allah, with true religion or with holiness. In effect you decieve yourself and Russia by saying Allah wants somethign other than what he is actually saying.
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Allah struck down the imposter Stalin with lightning from heaven to enable the free people of Russia the chance to defeat the tyrant and his legions. Do you not acknowledge that which was seen by all present, do you not acknowledge this sign of divinity?
if you do than do you dare say that Allah, the author of all truth, the smiter of the imposter Stalin, is a liar and that he is decieving you in what he says are his teachings and intentions?
if you do than do you dare say that Allah, the author of all truth, the smiter of the imposter Stalin, is a liar and that he is decieving you in what he says are his teachings and intentions?
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What proof do you use to validate your claim? Thus far you have been basing your presumption on the ramblings of a tyrant. Do you look to Stalin over all the prophets of peace, over Abdulrahman, over Mirza Nuri or over Allah himself in forming your assumptions? How blinded you must be by the taint Stalin has sown in the soil of Russia that you would look away from the righteous and see only the enemies of the Lord Most High!
Either way, if you have been listening to Allah, who has deigned it fit to speak to you in this time when Russia requires guidance to return to life after years of death, He does not suggest an established Church. He merely suggests the recognition of Allah as the only deity, and that as such no cults that deny Allah are permitted life in Russia for the good of its soul and to avoid the ressurection of a stalinistic tyranny in a faith that rejects Allah, as stalinist islam truly did when it worshipped stalin over the true God. Other than that we have no issue with your ideology, for we do not favour one socio-economic ideology over another so long as they follow the fundamental teachings laid down by Allah at the defeat of the imposter Stalin.
Either way, if you have been listening to Allah, who has deigned it fit to speak to you in this time when Russia requires guidance to return to life after years of death, He does not suggest an established Church. He merely suggests the recognition of Allah as the only deity, and that as such no cults that deny Allah are permitted life in Russia for the good of its soul and to avoid the ressurection of a stalinistic tyranny in a faith that rejects Allah, as stalinist islam truly did when it worshipped stalin over the true God. Other than that we have no issue with your ideology, for we do not favour one socio-economic ideology over another so long as they follow the fundamental teachings laid down by Allah at the defeat of the imposter Stalin.
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Along with my fellow Brother Caragiv, I agree with the following proposal. This will definitely benefit all of us, regardless of religion, philosophy and politics.
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People of Russia, I have long contemplated the situation of our nation. It is split into numerous factions, some, I support, others I am neutral to. Yet others I have opposed, but I have never willingly tooken up arms against anyone. Not even Stalin, despite argueing against him. The war between these factions nearly destroyed us twice. Now, the Stalinist faction is nearly destroyed. Already though, I see conflict ensuing again. Thus, after long consideration, I humbly request to lead the nation from here since I am not in any of the factions.
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Please, update! End the madness! 
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ooc: I think you will find the update occured. Whats happening now is that now that the shack that was Christos' dictatorship has been demolished, people are arguing over what form the new house should take.
Ergo one fight is ended, and now the allies of convenience are arguing with each other over what to do next because with Christos struck down there is now a massive power vacuum.
Ergo one fight is ended, and now the allies of convenience are arguing with each other over what to do next because with Christos struck down there is now a massive power vacuum.
Optical
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Great! This has all finally been (sort of) resolved!
In that case, I guess I can go to Paris to find out about the number (although I think I might be able to guess something of its nature
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In that case, I guess I can go to Paris to find out about the number (although I think I might be able to guess something of its nature
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ooc: um... well resolved is not quite the right word to use. To use a mental image, I see the situation as one of a pack of dogs all fighting each other over the splayed corpse of a not quite dead Christos for the choice prize of supremacy (or at least prominence) in Russia.
Who knows though, perhaps redspy will accede to my minor amendment (it is minor, a small alteration to the final sentence) to his proposal and things can move forward more hastily.
Who knows though, perhaps redspy will accede to my minor amendment (it is minor, a small alteration to the final sentence) to his proposal and things can move forward more hastily.
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OOC: Yeah, that's why I put in the 'sort of' part. It's only resolved in the sense that there's not a civil war or anything... at the moment... {knock wood} 
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How can this be? I had more prestige than any of you!! I wont be destroyed so easy.
I, with the remains of the holy army, escape to the nearest civilization, give them the defenses of russia and tell them that if they help me become once again leader of russia i will give them all the gld of russia and let them have OB and troops inside russia.
I, with the remains of the holy army, escape to the nearest civilization, give them the defenses of russia and tell them that if they help me become once again leader of russia i will give them all the gld of russia and let them have OB and troops inside russia.
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