FFA01 - Free for all succession game
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IceLion
Living in denial
I'll second that motion... move to a vote.
Love the signature by the way Codeboy.
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Love the signature by the way Codeboy.
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Typing in the whole stinking turn log, the forum kicked me out and started yelling about this being an invalid thread, etc. Sigh. Anyway, here is the save and I'll try posting again.
http://webpages.charter.net/codeboy/FFA1%20AD-1100.Civ4SavedGame
http://webpages.charter.net/codeboy/FFA1%20AD-1100.Civ4SavedGame
Still having problems posting the turnlog. This time I copied it to my clipboard before trying to post! I'll try breaking it down into two chunks, maybe it is too big??
Pre Turn: 1000AD - Finish off Toku, spread Judasim further, spotted a fish and a clam that we can work for trade. I notice Alexander has Phalanx and two visible sources of Iron.
Turn 1: 1010AD -
Elephantine: Library -> Monestary
Osaka: Sword -> Sword
Edo: Barracks -> War Chariot
Corinth converts to Judaism!
Chop completes giving 31 hammers to Forbidden Palace
Turn 2: 1020AD -
Thebes: Galley -> Workboat
Memphis: Monestary
Anasazi: Chitzen Itza -> Theater
Turn 3: 1030AD -
2 forest chops complete. We have a metric buttload of workers sitting around and scratching their behinds
Turn 4: 1040AD -
Music -> Metal Casting
Heliopolis: Forbidden Palace completes -> Monestary
Thebes: Workboat -> Workboat
Anasazi: Theater -> Monestary
A Great Artist Thespis is born in Thebes (from Music)! Not sure what to do with him at this point. Culture bomb? No. Discover Lit? A 2 turn tech. No.
Rome has been destroyed by Alexander!!
Turn 5: 1050AD -
Memphis: War Elephant
Heliopolis: Monestary -> War Elephant
Edo: War Chariot -> Theater
Osaka: Sword -> War Elephant
Unleash the dogs of war! Say your prayers Toku!!
Pre Turn: 1000AD - Finish off Toku, spread Judasim further, spotted a fish and a clam that we can work for trade. I notice Alexander has Phalanx and two visible sources of Iron.
Turn 1: 1010AD -
Elephantine: Library -> Monestary
Osaka: Sword -> Sword
Edo: Barracks -> War Chariot
Corinth converts to Judaism!
Chop completes giving 31 hammers to Forbidden Palace
Turn 2: 1020AD -
Thebes: Galley -> Workboat
Memphis: Monestary
Anasazi: Chitzen Itza -> Theater
Turn 3: 1030AD -
2 forest chops complete. We have a metric buttload of workers sitting around and scratching their behinds
Turn 4: 1040AD -
Music -> Metal Casting
Heliopolis: Forbidden Palace completes -> Monestary
Thebes: Workboat -> Workboat
Anasazi: Theater -> Monestary
A Great Artist Thespis is born in Thebes (from Music)! Not sure what to do with him at this point. Culture bomb? No. Discover Lit? A 2 turn tech. No.
Rome has been destroyed by Alexander!!
Turn 5: 1050AD -
Memphis: War Elephant
Heliopolis: Monestary -> War Elephant
Edo: War Chariot -> Theater
Osaka: Sword -> War Elephant
Unleash the dogs of war! Say your prayers Toku!!
OK, that seemed to work. Here is the second half:
Turn 6: 1060AD -
Thebes: Work boat -> Theater
Anasazi: Monestary -> Archer (to kill unhappiness in the city)
Turn 7: 1070AD -
Metal Casting -> Lit in 2 turns
Thebes: Theater -> Forge
Anasazi: Archer -> Forge
The Battle of Nara begins: Toku has a large force outside the city, time to take them out while they are in the open!
Turn 8: 1080AD -
Elephantine: Monestary -> Forge
Turn 9: 1090AD -
Literature -> Compass
Memphis: War Elephant -> Great Library (veto this if you'd like, seemed like a good place for it)
Edo: Theater -> Monestary
Use Thespis to discover Theology: I debate switching to Theocracy. We don't need the extra XP for our troops as Toku is about dead and we haven't made contact with any other civ that doesn't have our religion so we don't need to worry about the spread of other religions. So, I stick with Organized Religion to keep our build bonuses.
We take the city of Nara!
Judasim has been spread to Rome!
Turn 10: 1100AD -
Heliopolis: War Elephant -> Forge
Post Turn: Well, Tokugawa is on the ropes and surrounded. The next player should have no trouble taking him out. Our galleys have explored everywhere that they can at the moment. I think we should focus on Optics and getting our ships out there to meet new civs! Maybe build some settlers and missionaries to get ready for that. Also there is a spot on the Northern part of Alexander's continent that we could consider settling on (near the bronze on the hill). Do we want to let him have the continent to himself or not? We also have a few wonders we can build. Heroic Epic as well as Notre Dame. After the forges come in, consider building those.
Our religion is making us 15gpt. Keep it up!
NEXT!
Turn 6: 1060AD -
Thebes: Work boat -> Theater
Anasazi: Monestary -> Archer (to kill unhappiness in the city)
Turn 7: 1070AD -
Metal Casting -> Lit in 2 turns
Thebes: Theater -> Forge
Anasazi: Archer -> Forge
The Battle of Nara begins: Toku has a large force outside the city, time to take them out while they are in the open!
Turn 8: 1080AD -
Elephantine: Monestary -> Forge
Turn 9: 1090AD -
Literature -> Compass
Memphis: War Elephant -> Great Library (veto this if you'd like, seemed like a good place for it)
Edo: Theater -> Monestary
Use Thespis to discover Theology: I debate switching to Theocracy. We don't need the extra XP for our troops as Toku is about dead and we haven't made contact with any other civ that doesn't have our religion so we don't need to worry about the spread of other religions. So, I stick with Organized Religion to keep our build bonuses.
We take the city of Nara!
Judasim has been spread to Rome!
Turn 10: 1100AD -
Heliopolis: War Elephant -> Forge
Post Turn: Well, Tokugawa is on the ropes and surrounded. The next player should have no trouble taking him out. Our galleys have explored everywhere that they can at the moment. I think we should focus on Optics and getting our ships out there to meet new civs! Maybe build some settlers and missionaries to get ready for that. Also there is a spot on the Northern part of Alexander's continent that we could consider settling on (near the bronze on the hill). Do we want to let him have the continent to himself or not? We also have a few wonders we can build. Heroic Epic as well as Notre Dame. After the forges come in, consider building those.
Our religion is making us 15gpt. Keep it up!
NEXT!
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Founding on Alex's continent might just incite him and/or give us a city that will be tough to defend in a war as it would have to be reinforced via sea route. SO unless that site can be turned into a hammer central... maybe not a great idea.
Defintly agree on needing to find the other civs out there. Lets get some seafaring going (not to mention trying to circumnavigate first...)
Defintly agree on needing to find the other civs out there. Lets get some seafaring going (not to mention trying to circumnavigate first...)
Yeah, probably best to stay on our continent. It would probably be better for us to focus on exploration and maybe finding some uninhabited lands to populate instead. We are way ahead in Tech on our side of the globe, but until we make contact with others, we won't really know!
Caravels here we come!
Caravels here we come!
After looking at the save, several comments:
1. For the first turn, turn science rate up to 70% for one turn, so we can get compass in 1 turn, instead of 2.
2. Consider the area NW of Osaka. You'll notice our cultural borders are crossing an ocean and showing us more land to the west. That means our galleys can cross there. Do so, and explore the new lands, for the purposes of more settling area, or finding other civs.
3. Be patient attacking Kyoto - they probably founded another city in place of the one we razed to the NW, on the end of the peninsula, so you'll need more troops after you take Kyoto to deal the final blow to the Japs on our continent (they may have slipped off to another island, too).
4. On the topic of settling the Greek continent, I would say it depends on what kind of victory we want here. If we would like to go for something military, then definitely settle there. If we would like to instead go for something like diplomacy or space race, then might want to stay on our own continent.
Vovan
1. For the first turn, turn science rate up to 70% for one turn, so we can get compass in 1 turn, instead of 2.
2. Consider the area NW of Osaka. You'll notice our cultural borders are crossing an ocean and showing us more land to the west. That means our galleys can cross there. Do so, and explore the new lands, for the purposes of more settling area, or finding other civs.
3. Be patient attacking Kyoto - they probably founded another city in place of the one we razed to the NW, on the end of the peninsula, so you'll need more troops after you take Kyoto to deal the final blow to the Japs on our continent (they may have slipped off to another island, too).
4. On the topic of settling the Greek continent, I would say it depends on what kind of victory we want here. If we would like to go for something military, then definitely settle there. If we would like to instead go for something like diplomacy or space race, then might want to stay on our own continent.
Vovan
Good questions Vovan. I didn't see the cultural borders outside Osaka, nice pickup. As far as another Japanese city lurking in the shadows, that is a possibility. I did notice during the battle of Nara that they did have a Galley and a settler off the coast of Nara but I'm pretty sure they were both destroyed when I captured the city. I was trying to keep track of them and I don't think he went anywhere. But Toku probably built them for a reason, eh?
So, I know we have quite a few Galleys of our own that aren't tasked with anything except for maybe moving some missionaries over to the greeks, so send a few up toward Osaka.
As far as victory goals, do you think it is too early to tell yet? I mean, until we've met all the other civs? Since it looks like everyone else might be on their own continent it might be more difficult to invade them (depending on how far away they are of course).
Anyway, good thoughts. Who's going to take it next?!?! I'm anticipating the last dying breaths of Japan!!
So, I know we have quite a few Galleys of our own that aren't tasked with anything except for maybe moving some missionaries over to the greeks, so send a few up toward Osaka.
As far as victory goals, do you think it is too early to tell yet? I mean, until we've met all the other civs? Since it looks like everyone else might be on their own continent it might be more difficult to invade them (depending on how far away they are of course).
Anyway, good thoughts. Who's going to take it next?!?! I'm anticipating the last dying breaths of Japan!!
IceLion
Living in denial
I'm waiting for my other SG to pick back up, so I guess I'll grab this and play it tonight. Time for Toky to die, methinks.
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IceLion
Living in denial
I played last night but didn't have time to post, will post tonight.
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IceLion
Living in denial
Just a thought from reading back in the posts; How ironic is it that the Greeks conquered Rome?
IceLion
Living in denial
Of course, it will be REALLY ironic if we take out the Greeks. Gotta love how some of these games play out historically.
IceLion
Living in denial
Duplicate post... love the forum bugs sometimes...
IceLion
Living in denial
IT- Ooooh, somebody left me lots of toys to play with
! Only two Cats though... oh well.
1st 1110AD- Begin bombing Kyoto, not much else.
2nd 1120AD- Compass completes, begin research on Engineering, Hagia Sophia would be good for our workers
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Thebes completes Forge>Notre Dame, Anasazi Forge>Colossus, Tokyo Library>Rax and Nora begins Theater, do some chopping to help rush Notre Dame.
3rd 1130AD- Osaka-Ephelant>Courthouse, Alexandria-Lighthouse>Courthouse, continue to bomb Kyoto.
4th 1140AD- Can FINALLY attack Kyoto, costs us 1 Cat, 1 Sword and 2 Axe
5th 1150AD- Elephantine Forge>Harbor
6th 1160AD- Great Artist born in Anasazi, left him there for someone else to play with.
7th 1170AD- Nagoya falls and...
Japan go BOOOM!!
8th 1180AD- Great Library done in Memphis>Forge, Heliopolis completes Forge>Theater, Anasazi completes Colossus>Harbor, Edo completes Monestary>Courthouse.
9th 1190AD-
10th 1200AD- Heliopolis Theater>Colosseum and Nagoya begins Theater.
...To be cont...
! Only two Cats though... oh well. 1st 1110AD- Begin bombing Kyoto, not much else.
2nd 1120AD- Compass completes, begin research on Engineering, Hagia Sophia would be good for our workers
.Thebes completes Forge>Notre Dame, Anasazi Forge>Colossus, Tokyo Library>Rax and Nora begins Theater, do some chopping to help rush Notre Dame.
3rd 1130AD- Osaka-Ephelant>Courthouse, Alexandria-Lighthouse>Courthouse, continue to bomb Kyoto.
4th 1140AD- Can FINALLY attack Kyoto, costs us 1 Cat, 1 Sword and 2 Axe
5th 1150AD- Elephantine Forge>Harbor
6th 1160AD- Great Artist born in Anasazi, left him there for someone else to play with.
7th 1170AD- Nagoya falls and...
Japan go BOOOM!!
8th 1180AD- Great Library done in Memphis>Forge, Heliopolis completes Forge>Theater, Anasazi completes Colossus>Harbor, Edo completes Monestary>Courthouse.
9th 1190AD-
10th 1200AD- Heliopolis Theater>Colosseum and Nagoya begins Theater.
...To be cont...
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