Filling in the gaps - Charting the optimal Civ Switches

[Ryansinbela]

I've noted down the following wonders for NA:

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so yeah, it can definitely be done, and Inuit => Haida => Tlingit can definitely work as a line. (Haven't researched the Salish.)

Southern Africa is still bad though. Bantu and Shona/Zimbabwe can be added, they have a potential wonder each. But the Modern Civ is still difficult. You can potentially do Mandela's birthplace (Qunu) for Xhosa and the Bulawayo Kraal for Zulu but both of those are questionable in terms of Wonder status. The monument that could pass the most as a Modern Wonder for the Zulu or Xhosa is Maropeng, the visitor's centre to the Cradle of Humankind, but that structure was opened in 2005, which is too recent.

Most South-African structures are out of the question anyway. The Voortrekker Monument (a viable Modern Wonder) cannot be assigned to the Zulu, that makes no sense whatsoever. You'd have to call the Civ 'South Africa'.

The rest of Africa is fine if you just go by the rest of the World Heritage Sites.

What is this sheet you are making?

 

[Lord Lakely]

What is this sheet you are making?

Just the new civ suggestions from and for this thread, with potential traits and their associated wonders.

I find it easier to find the wonders and then work my way towards the Civs in regions that I'm not familiar with (like Africa and North America)

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

Southern Africa is still bad though. Bantu and Shona/Zimbabwe can be added, they have a potential wonder each. But the Modern Civ is still difficult. You can potentially do Mandela's birthplace (Qunu) for Xhosa and the Bulawayo Kraal for Zulu but both of those are questionable in terms of Wonder status. The monument that could pass the most as a Modern Wonder for the Zulu or Xhosa is Maropeng, the visitor's centre to the Cradle of Humankind, but that structure was opened in 2005, which is too recent.

Most South-African structures are out of the question anyway. The Voortrekker Monument (a viable Modern Wonder) cannot be assigned to the Zulu, that makes no sense whatsoever. You'd have to call the Civ 'South Africa'.

Voortrekker Monument could work for the Boers, if they ever get in. At this point I wouldn't count them out if an Exploration Dutch needed a post-colonial option.

As for the Zulu I think Bulawayo Kraal is the most likely, despite how not "wonderous" it might be.

 

[Ryansinbela]

Just the new civ suggestions from and for this thread, with potential traits and their associated wonders.

I find it easier to find the wonders and then work my way towards the Civs in regions that I'm not familiar with (like Africa and North America)

Very cool I want to see the other attributes

Lakota is another native Civ I want but what would their wonder be

 

[Phrozen]

I think the Great Trail could be a good wonder for the Iroquois, even if it isn't a building. It's still infrastructure, and can even thematically offer boosts to roads/railroads or city connections.

The Comanche Trail, Comanche War Trail, or Comanche Trace can be a wonder for the Comanche. Maybe using Big Spring, the Llano Estacado, or Comanche Springs for the on map graphic.

 

[ConspicuousFlower]

Another option for the Navajo could be the Navajo Nation Council Chamber. It may be a bit recent (it was built in the 1930s), but I think it works if they are a Modern Era civ, and it is recognized as a National Historic Landmark.

 

[moondog385]

It’s frustrating how in the game they decided to separate civs from leaders — thus making many civs possible for the first time (Mississippians, Minoans, Tiwanaku, Olmec, Bantu, etc.) — they handicapped themselves with the whole Associated Wonder thing as well as making you play each civ in a certain “age,” forcing them into places they don’t really fit.

 

[Ryansinbela]

It’s frustrating how in the game they decided to separate civs from leaders — thus making many civs possible for the first time (Mississippians, Minoans, Tiwanaku, Olmec, Bantu, etc.) — they handicapped themselves with the whole Associated Wonder thing as well as making you play each civ in a certain “age,” forcing them into places they don’t really fit.

Olmecs still has a problem due to most of their stuff not being fully known

 

[Hellenism Salesman]

At the very least we know exactly what their UI would be.