Firebug's Civilizations

[Firebug]

wait. An excuse for what? I came up with the idea of using Great Generals and Admirals to capture city states. I've been given feedback from people that it should be cultural great people. I begin working on the update.

Then GPuzzle shows up telling me that another mod happens to be using it. I wasn't aware. But does it matter? No mod design is copyrighted.
Its modding, i want to represent Athens through capturing city states and through culture. This is how i came up with it. It just happened that JFD's Austria (which is tucked away at the bottom of his massive list of release civilizations now i looked, without one of his infographics) also has it.

And its not word for word the same ability. Its a single component of a mod update which i have put a ton of work into over the past week. I struggled to come up with a good way to make the a single-city civ work, which is not easy. Please don't start accusing me of coming up with excuses to copy and plagarise other people's work. I've managed to make all my mods before without doing that, i don't need to start now.

If JFD himself is against me using a similar design, i'll probably change it to something else, But as it is i don't think ANYONE should actually give a damn.

 

[Tarmont]

wait. An excuse for what? I came up with the idea of using Great Generals and Admirals to capture city states. I've been given feedback from people that it should be cultural great people. I begin working on the update.

Then GPuzzle shows up telling me that another mod happens to be using it. I wasn't aware. But does it matter? No mod design is copyrighted.
Its modding, i want to represent Athens through capturing city states and through culture. This is how i came up with it. It just happened that JFD's Austria (which is tucked away at the bottom of his massive list of release civilizations now i looked, without one of his infographics)

And its not word for word the same ability. Its a single component of a mod update which i have put a ton of work into over the past week. I struggled to come up with a good way to make the a single-city civ work, which is not easy. Please don't start accusing me of coming up with excuses to copy and plagarise other people's work. I've managed to make all my mods before without doing that, i don't need to start now.

Don't put words in my mouth buddy, I said that HRE being outdated wasn't an excuse to use the same ability that they do, not that you can't use the same idea twice. Had you replied with "Oh, it's been used before there but I want to use it again here" it'd be 100% fine but the way you replied was that JFD's austria doesn't matter because it's old.

 

[Firebug]

and if i had simply said "i want to use JFD's design", someone would of undoubtedly called me a copier. I can't win either way, Civfanatics is a big forum.
Sorry for coming across like i didn't care about JFD'S work, but i had to choose carefully how i explained my choice to use a UA similiar to JFD's Austria. turns out I chose poorly.

 

[JFD]

No problem by me anyway. Especially given Claims' revision of Austria's UA (extra Claim on Allies, free Dignitary with Cultural GP) is probably the one that'll take precedent, and I'll probably remove that HRE one once I get to updating HRE.

 

[Firebug]

ATHENS UPDATE



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Thanks for all the help along the way, to everyone who gave feedback.

ALSO
a Thebes update that actually does give them twice as much experience. It didn't before.

 

[jollysox]

Does Athens not have custom music? All I'm getting is the set-up screen music.

 

[SamuraiOutcast]

Great update Firebug!

 

[Firebug]

Does Athens not have custom music? All I'm getting is the set-up screen music.

This should be fixed now. I forgot to add a soundtrack tag.

Great update Firebug!

Thanks! i can see by your profile picture that you're a fan of Athens.

On another note, i've updated my Banner for the Greek States.

 

[jollysox]

Thanks, the Athens music is working now. However, the leader screen for Thebes isn't working.

 

[Alkahest]

Currently playing as Athens in my Greek FFA game and I realized I don't exactly know how to use the great people to get the city-states? I got a writer in there and I wasn't given any special button (like Venice) so I figured I needed to be allies. Alas, twas futile. Mind specifying what needs to be done for that glorious annexation?

Thanks, the Athens music is working now. However, the leader screen for Thebes isn't working.

Can confirm.

 

[Firebug]

I'm unsure why the Great People AREN'T working like Venice's Merchant. I'll take a look and expect a fix soon.

I'm currently uploading a fix for Thebes, expect it soon.
It also fixed the lack of diplomacy responses.

 

[Firebug]

Athens should be fully bugfixed now. Please report anything else you find. Music will be coming soon.

Argos is the next on the update list.

Spoiler :

 

[ArchangelOfDoom]

Hi, I love the Greek civs as I'm a massive OCC fan which these guys seem to gel with very well, great work. One question though, any chance for Events&Decisions support in the future?

 

[Firebug]

Events and Decisions is a very complex pain. (At least for me). I struggle to give it support, but i could try in the future.

 

[ArchangelOfDoom]

Events and Decisions is a very complex pain. (At least for me). I struggle to give it support, but i could try in the future.

Cool, no pressure, your civs are great as they are

 

[Firebug]

I need help designing a new UA for Argos. I'm struggling to think of something that focuses on food without being OP or UP.
Its a one city civ, as well, which makes it even harder.

 

[Firebug]

What do people think of this design for the Argos update?

 

[Keniisu]

I really like the artwork! Well-made work once again.
Also, by the way. Once you update the mod I plan on putting it in a Mod Showcase video to highlight it a bit.

 

[Firebug]

I look forward to seeing it, thanks.

 

[SamuraiOutcast]

That proposed icon is fantastic. UA is powerful, but good for a single-city Civ.