First Look: Kongo

[labrynianrebel]

Looks great, especially love the animation of the leader. In fact the jolly charisma of the various leaders is strangely one of my most anticipated things of Civ VI.

 

[Siptah]

I don't know why people would want a religion as Kongo considering no holy sites and gaining someone else's founder belief for free. Its something you can avoid and concentrate on Kongo's strengths instead.

You are right, there is practically no reason (besides the victory condition, we don't know enough about that) for it. You get the full benefit from another religion. The longer I think about it, it is less a malus than a strength. Kongo can be a district powerhouse, early neighborhoods that generate food means larger cities and thus more districts. Since you don't build holy sites, you will build more of the other ones. Now let's hope its not 10% increase per district in your empire...

 

[King Jason]

I don't know why people would want a religion as Kongo.

they wouldn't. The optimal strategy would appear to be to leech off of the dominant religion without needing to do any of the work yourself.

 

[MAHRana]

Looks fun to play! idk how true to life their unique abilities are, maybe somebody more familiar with them can give a good opinion on this

 

[Taronius]

What if you have 3 or more cities as kongo, found a religion with stonehenge but still has a majority of cities following another religion do you get both religions founder beliefs?

 

[Nixalo]

So the Kongolese can't build holy sites because Mvemba is a convert.

But 50% of civs are converts.

 

[BenZL43]

Now, now.. for those who still doubt the 12th district is Neighborhood, it's now totally confirmed as Kongo's UD totally replace it.

On another note, I wish they'll write up the name of each unique like for Aztec. If it's not because of leaks, we'd never know how to spell Mvemba a Nzinga or Ngao Mbeba.

 

[KrikkitTwo]

Yes, I'm actually pretty sure it is Great Zimbabwe.

So there is some way to win a religious victory without founding a religion. Otherwise Kongo would be out for that.

Edit: he looks really great.
Edit 2: do all neighborhoods provide food and gold? Or just Kongo's unique ones?

I think you may have to found a religion..

The alternative I can see is..
Whenever one religion becomes dominant over all civs, Someone wins a religious victory.

It should NOT just be whoever holds the Holy City

Your "Religious Victory" score is

1 points for # of turns you have controlled the Holy City (if you have it)
30-100 points for founding the Religion

So if you want to win a religious victory with Not your religion...get the holy city AND wipe out the founder.

 

[HanNorwood]

So the Kongolese can't build holy sites because Mvemba is a convert.

But 50% of civs are converts.

One of the most important things Afonso/Mvemba did was convert. The ability is also linked to him, so another leader would be able to.

 

[Sansa_Stark]

We have obviously no idea how good this Kongo is, but I really love it

What about his agenda? Loves civs with religion?

 

[Makenshi]

Hmm... something tells me Brazil and Kongo will not be friends

 

[eso12por8]

Yeah, that does look visually kind of strange but should have no gameplay impact. Note that it is still built next to an Industrial Zone district in this picture, as it is required to per our latest info.

My intrigue was more geared around the potential placement requirement. So many wonders require a river, a desert, proximity to a district, etc. Just trying to understand if it's just water, or water & cliff

 

[Nightsong]

Now, now.. for those who still doubt the 12th district is Neighborhood, it's now totally confirmed as Kongo's UD totally replace it.

On another note, I wish they'll write up the name of each unique like for Aztec. If it's not because of leaks, we'd never know how to spell Mvemba a Nzinga or Ngao Mbeba.

Hell... I had to Google the name of their civilization ability and the best I could come up with was Nkisi. That and we don't know the name of the leader ability.

 

[Siptah]

Now, now.. for those who still doubt the 12th district is Neighborhood, it's now totally confirmed as Kongo's UD totally replace it.

On another note, I wish they'll write up the name of each unique like for Aztec. If it's not because of leaks, we'd never know how to spell Mvemba a Nzinga or Ngao Mbeba.

The english subtitles are all wrong, but if you watch the spanish version, you see it written down correctly.

 

[shyPiano]

Oh! Came sooner than I thought it would!

Here's Mvemba a Nzinga! I do like his animation, but his design is a quite different from what I expected. More stereotypical of african rainforest tribes. What was the basis for this design?

Also, here's Kongo's icon. Is there any historical significance to the color scheme?

Not being able to build Holy Sites is really weird, and it will mean that this civilization will have a lack of faith production compared to other civilizations. Which will have big effects on other stuff, like generation of great people. Though being able to get all the other's Founder beliefs seems really really interesting! In fact, it was what I first thought would be India's UA, because I confused Founder and Follower beliefs.
Speaking of India, Kongo seems to be the Overpopulation civ this time around: Great Works produce food, earlier neighborhoods, and all that. Dunno how I feel about that, but at least the mechanics behind giving Great Works more yields is really interesting, specially since you can move them around your cities.

Overall, I'm happy, but not super excited, with this civilization.

PS: More Mvemba a Nzinga!

Spoiler :

 

[fmm]

My intrigue was more geared around the potential placement requirement. So many wonders require a river, a desert, proximity to a district, etc. Just trying to understand if it's just water, or water & cliff

Well the previous explanation said "must be built adjacent to the Coast"... although come to think of it the Great Lighthouse and Colossus also say "must be built on the coast." This is all per: http://well-of-souls.com/civ/civ6_cities.html#wonders. So perhaps all these coastal wonders can be built either on ocean or land tiles, so long as they are "adjacent to the coast"?

 

[Siptah]

Also, here's Kongo's icon. Is there any historical significance to the color scheme?

historically, the flag of Kongo was white/red, just like Japan. As it is now, it's the same colors as Scythia. Maybe it will change or Scythia changed theirs? I'm not sure if the mask is generic or a specific one.

 

[MAHRana]

So getting an apostle of other religions gives what exactly? What would you do? Stop other civs from winning a religious victory. Am i misunderstanding something?

 

[Nixalo]

Edit 2: do all neighborhoods provide food and gold? Or just Kongo's unique ones?

By the narator's phrase "it provides housing as well as food and gold". Since we know neighborhoods provide housing, the + and + sound like bonuses.

It sounds like Kongo is to tall city civ. They can build cities early and can have giant cities early.

 

[fmm]

Is it weird that at one minute into the video, Kongo is shown as having 5000 faith! How did they possibly get that much faith?!