Discussion in 'Civ6 - General Discussions' started by Hutchy27, Sep 26, 2016.
Yes, this was my interpretation too.
I'm actually more worried about Sumeria and Rome. That Roman expansion drive and Sumeria's bonus to joining in...
Good catch, thanks!
It's all about early game. Even barbarian focus fits here. The only really long-term bonus is Ziggurat and it's strong.
We don't know whether the bonus works backward, but in general it looks like this. You have early access to Joint War and AI favors Joint Wars with you, so you could have some nice conquest.
As with other Sumer bonuses, the usefulness of it decreases later, after other civs gain access to joint wars too and war becomes less viable diplomatic solution.
It's worse than Sweden's UA - at least Sweden got +10% Great People generation per DoF. Here Gilgamesh gets nothing. Earlier Joint Wars, actually, but whatever, that doesn't seem that big of a bonus.
But I don't feel Gilgamesh as an AI will be aggressive - the video did claim he will be loyal to his friends and loves to help out.
Isn't Enkidu the "boyfriend" of Gilgamesh? So Both UA and LUA are about Gilgamesh?
Edit: oops just realized "Adventure of Enkidu" IS the LUA...
I think its the other way around. Science always, and culture if adjacent to a river.
So really a early science civ finally. We have to wait to find out how effectively can you use this Ziggurats, since its early use will slow down growth (or at least would, in Civ 5 world).
That joint war ability looks confusing. Is is clear whether the other party shares Sumeria's experience and pillages too? And I also didn't get how experience is shared... So if some unit of Sumeria's ally gains experience, closest unit belonging to Sumeria gets it too?
The video specifically says "Sumeria shares .." which implies that it is unidirectional.
Is that war cart being pulled by donkeys?
I don't like this representation of Sumeria...it doesn't make much sense from an historical point of view.
But I like that they feel very unique, albeit in the wrong way :\
The video also seems to imply that Sumeria gets access to the Joint War mechanic earlier than the other civs (unless they also get Joint War with Foreign Trade).
I hope it goes both ways. I wouldn't want to be his "bro" if he got all the benefits and I didn't.
It's not my jam, but it's pretty cool.
Of course Sumeria gets rewards shared by his ally their way, too. They're not going to make a UA which only benefits the other party.
Oi, I'm full of fail this morning. Thanks for the correction.
Yes. Sumeria utilized Ass to pull carts into battle before horses were tame enough for the job.
Adventure Time (with Enkidu),
C'mon grab your friends,
We're going to very
distant lands. With
Gilgamesh the God and
Ziggurat the Building,
The fun will never
end, it's Adventure Time!
Something to consider: in all the streams and videos we've seen spearmen in the barb camps, which makes the war carts good for clearing them. Which ties into Epic Quest nicely.
Gilgamesh was a gym rat.
Wow! Gilgamesh looks like the Mesopotamian version of Heracles! Did Sumerian kings actually even dress like he does in the video?
Seems like both the civ ability and leader ability are based on the Epic of Gilgamesh. I feel like Sumer will be a one leader civ then. No civ ability that is specific to the Sumerian civilization...
War-Cart seems like a Generic name for a unit, they are using Varu instead of War Elephant for the Indians, why not research the Sumerian name for a chariot and use that?
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