freddyfear
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uups: I'm playing Warlords, not bts...
Last night I managed to get a spaceship win on Noble, my first one. I playd Carthage, large map, normal speed. I think I was only a few turns ahead of Brennus though, and I have a suspicion that either Luis or Ceasar would have invaded me if the game had lasted for another 20 turns, but still.
I did a little cheat though, this was the third time I restarted the game from the initial autosave. I playd a coupple of times to try out some strategies and to find out how the world looked, and this had some significant influence on my winning strategy I will admit.
Let me explain and hopefully get a few constructive comments:
There was 3 continents, I shared a very big one with Brennus. We were in oposite ends, so any rushing strategy was out of the question (good for me as I really suck on that). Others were Augustus, Wang kong, , Julius, Luis VIII, Hephatsuxxx (Egypt), Cyrus, Tokugawa,
This made me do the following:
-I went for Polytheism first and got it. I also built Stonehenge to let my settling cities get a nice start on culture and the needed boarder expansion. Brennus picked up my religion rather fast, and I never had any quarrels with him throughout the game.
-I continued to research all the 2 first tiers myself and then started up the line to get Optics and eventually build the caravel. This way I could find the other nations and start tech trading. Even with my (almost) beeline Tokugawa still circumvented the globe first.
-Brennus has a outstanding strategy to settle on the good resources, so I hurried out my first settlers to grab copper, horses, iron and some other goodies. I learned later that even if I had the second largest nation (Caesar was going for domination win and nearly made it by conquering Tokugawa), I still didn't have any oil, and noone cared to trade me, not even my best bud Brennus. I have to say I was more or less expecting an invasion because of this, no battelships, no planes, no tanks, only infantery.
-My tech trade worked and soon took me close to tech leaders, but I lost the Lib race also. I had a strong cottage economy and many costal cities (Carthage is Finance traited I remind you) and I think by the time I got to build the space- race I was only matced by the 2 leading nations. I guess my production must have been unmatched as I actually managed to win.
My questions and concerns:
-After spamming the first 3-4 settlers to get the resources my resource rate is down on 50%. At this point I start building to get back and I tend to stop expanding after that. I won this with only 8 cities! I see the AI are spamming cities even within their own cultural borders throughout the game, is that really a point?
-This time I used the Demographic window to see how I was doing on troops, and I really get pusseled about how some nations get so increadibly high count. I had 5-7 defenders in each city and a stack of 10 cavalery, but still my count was 1 mill towards the leaders 6 mill at the end. Fast calculation: my troops 6x 8 +10= about 60, and 6 times this is 360!! How can I build that?
-I guess I could probably have won a Noble game earlier, but I tend to scrap my games if I fall behind on the points. This time I did also, but I had decided to try to finish a game anyway. How much do youjudge by that scale? I was on top half and 7 of the other 8 nations were all within 3-500 points, but Caesar was leading with 1000 points by the time I got the ship up. How much do you care about the score throughout the game?
-I have lost earlier games to Culture wins before I could get the spaceship up, also when I was going for cultural myself. I guess I was lucky this time for it not to happen, specially with Luis VIII in there.
But I'm not moving up just yet, I need to play some more and see if I can master this level better.
Any comments are welcome.
Last night I managed to get a spaceship win on Noble, my first one. I playd Carthage, large map, normal speed. I think I was only a few turns ahead of Brennus though, and I have a suspicion that either Luis or Ceasar would have invaded me if the game had lasted for another 20 turns, but still.
I did a little cheat though, this was the third time I restarted the game from the initial autosave. I playd a coupple of times to try out some strategies and to find out how the world looked, and this had some significant influence on my winning strategy I will admit.
Let me explain and hopefully get a few constructive comments:
There was 3 continents, I shared a very big one with Brennus. We were in oposite ends, so any rushing strategy was out of the question (good for me as I really suck on that). Others were Augustus, Wang kong, , Julius, Luis VIII, Hephatsuxxx (Egypt), Cyrus, Tokugawa,
This made me do the following:
-I went for Polytheism first and got it. I also built Stonehenge to let my settling cities get a nice start on culture and the needed boarder expansion. Brennus picked up my religion rather fast, and I never had any quarrels with him throughout the game.
-I continued to research all the 2 first tiers myself and then started up the line to get Optics and eventually build the caravel. This way I could find the other nations and start tech trading. Even with my (almost) beeline Tokugawa still circumvented the globe first.
-Brennus has a outstanding strategy to settle on the good resources, so I hurried out my first settlers to grab copper, horses, iron and some other goodies. I learned later that even if I had the second largest nation (Caesar was going for domination win and nearly made it by conquering Tokugawa), I still didn't have any oil, and noone cared to trade me, not even my best bud Brennus. I have to say I was more or less expecting an invasion because of this, no battelships, no planes, no tanks, only infantery.
-My tech trade worked and soon took me close to tech leaders, but I lost the Lib race also. I had a strong cottage economy and many costal cities (Carthage is Finance traited I remind you) and I think by the time I got to build the space- race I was only matced by the 2 leading nations. I guess my production must have been unmatched as I actually managed to win.
My questions and concerns:
-After spamming the first 3-4 settlers to get the resources my resource rate is down on 50%. At this point I start building to get back and I tend to stop expanding after that. I won this with only 8 cities! I see the AI are spamming cities even within their own cultural borders throughout the game, is that really a point?
-This time I used the Demographic window to see how I was doing on troops, and I really get pusseled about how some nations get so increadibly high count. I had 5-7 defenders in each city and a stack of 10 cavalery, but still my count was 1 mill towards the leaders 6 mill at the end. Fast calculation: my troops 6x 8 +10= about 60, and 6 times this is 360!! How can I build that?
-I guess I could probably have won a Noble game earlier, but I tend to scrap my games if I fall behind on the points. This time I did also, but I had decided to try to finish a game anyway. How much do youjudge by that scale? I was on top half and 7 of the other 8 nations were all within 3-500 points, but Caesar was leading with 1000 points by the time I got the ship up. How much do you care about the score throughout the game?
-I have lost earlier games to Culture wins before I could get the spaceship up, also when I was going for cultural myself. I guess I was lucky this time for it not to happen, specially with Luis VIII in there.
But I'm not moving up just yet, I need to play some more and see if I can master this level better.
Any comments are welcome.
