nonconformist said:
mrtn said:
Odd, because in my experance with time, "quarter 'till [hour]" is far more common than "45 after [hour]" or even "[hour] 45"
The only one from that list I would have to think twice about is "we'll meet in a quarter"
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Odd, because in my experance with time, "quarter 'till [hour]" is far more common than "45 after [hour]" or even "[hour] 45"
The only one from that list I would have to think twice about is "we'll meet in a quarter"
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Now you know why my favorite subject is math.
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Look at Spanish for 16 and all those after that, it's te same. Dieciseis, diecisiete y dieciocho...Paradigne said:
(FYI, that's "16, 17, and 18").
Just curious: I almost never use an analog clock anymore (I have mostly digital clocks and watches). Whenever someone asks me the time though, I always respond with either the hour, quarter past/till, os the half hour. I always round the time. Anyone else do this?
example:
Some people I know will look at their watch and say its 4:11. I would say quarter after four
example:
Some people I know will look at their watch and say its 4:11. I would say quarter after four
Masquerouge
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The thing that has always annoyed me with the PM/AM system is that 12 AM and 12 PM are not where they's supposed to be, meaning 12 PM comes after 11AM. I've scheduled quite a few meetings at midnight because of that.
The 24-hour based system is much more convenient IMHO.
The 24-hour based system is much more convenient IMHO.
Masquerouge
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Quinzy said:they are where they're supposed to be, just not where you want them to be
It's just that concept of not having a 0-hour that messes with my mind.
Like in the 24-hour you go from 23:59 to 0:00, but here 12:00AM is not the last hour of the day, but actually the first of the next day.
Do you see what I mean?
colontos
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Korean has two entirely different number sets. One, called Sino-Korean (as it is very similar to Chinese) is very common sense. 1-10 is: il, i, sam, sa, oh, yuk, chil, pal, gu, ship. So ship is 10, then 11 is ship-il (ten-one), 12 is ship-i, etc. 20 is i-ship (two-ten).
What's weird about it is when you get into higher numbers. In English we have lexical units for one, ten, hundred, and thousand. After thousand, we only have a new lexical unit every 3 digits: thousand, million, billion, etc. In Sino-Korean, there is a new lexical unit for 10,000 too. So where we say 100,000 is a hundred thousand, in Korean it's ten-ten thousand. A million is hundred-ten thousand, 10 million is thousand-ten thousand. Then at 100 million Korean has a new lexical item, so 1 billion is ten-hundred million.
THEN, Korean has a set of numbers that are pure Korean, completely different. 1-10 goes hana, dul, set, net, tasot, yosot, ilgop, yodol, ahup, yol. 11 and 12, etc, work the same as sino-korean, but pure korean has entirely new lexical items for 20, 30, 40, 50, 60, 70, 80, and 90. The word for 20 is not etymologically related to the word for 2, for example. Pure Korean numbers stop at 99.
The two sets of numbers are used for different things. Money is always Sino-Korean, counting things is usually pure Korean, whereas when you say time, the hour is a pure korean number and the minutes are given in Sino-Korean.
What's weird about it is when you get into higher numbers. In English we have lexical units for one, ten, hundred, and thousand. After thousand, we only have a new lexical unit every 3 digits: thousand, million, billion, etc. In Sino-Korean, there is a new lexical unit for 10,000 too. So where we say 100,000 is a hundred thousand, in Korean it's ten-ten thousand. A million is hundred-ten thousand, 10 million is thousand-ten thousand. Then at 100 million Korean has a new lexical item, so 1 billion is ten-hundred million.
THEN, Korean has a set of numbers that are pure Korean, completely different. 1-10 goes hana, dul, set, net, tasot, yosot, ilgop, yodol, ahup, yol. 11 and 12, etc, work the same as sino-korean, but pure korean has entirely new lexical items for 20, 30, 40, 50, 60, 70, 80, and 90. The word for 20 is not etymologically related to the word for 2, for example. Pure Korean numbers stop at 99.
The two sets of numbers are used for different things. Money is always Sino-Korean, counting things is usually pure Korean, whereas when you say time, the hour is a pure korean number and the minutes are given in Sino-Korean.
colontos
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nonconformist said:The Germans also have the sillines to express their times as minutes to the hour.
So what is half past two, to them is half to three, and what is quater past five is three-quarters to six
Russians do the same. Even at say 6:10, they will often say "fifty minutes to seven."
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CaptainF
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As far as numbers go, English is pretty straight.
But with a lot of other things it's pretty messed.
What is a declension, pray tell?
But pronunciation and spelling is so bollocksed up it's almost mind warping.
Yeah when I started studying spanish I noticed this too.
Interesting way of saying goodbye. "I'm leaving you in God's hands!"
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Grand lives on as slang but IIRC it historically meant thousand. Where pony and monkey meaning 25 and 500 came from I've no idea.
Eerrrr look at Cuivenen's post (#52)
Oh well, pfft!
Sorry. I don't think I realized there was a page three when I posted that, because I really hadn't seen Cuivenen's post.
Russian numbers are pretty strait forward.
even eleven and twelve are 10+1 and 10+2. The only number that are strangely named are 40 (sorok) and 90 (devenosto). 40 is strange because it does not follow from for at all 4. 90 is expressed as 100-10.
even eleven and twelve are 10+1 and 10+2. The only number that are strangely named are 40 (sorok) and 90 (devenosto). 40 is strange because it does not follow from for at all 4. 90 is expressed as 100-10.
