Frederick II inscription

[Pangur Bán]

Very interesting:
http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/History/E...y/Crusader_inscription_Arabic_14-Nov-2011.htm
It's an Arabic inscription setup by the Emperor Frederick II, seemingly on the walls of the city of Jaffa. Make you rethink what you thought you knew about cultural relations in the Crusading era? Does it just confirm what you already thought about Frederick II? Or is it merely a piece of rare evidence confirming the boring fact that the crusaders and their rulers just had to get on with life in the place they lived?

 

[Graceheart the Leopard]

For a minute, I thought it was this Frederick we were talking about.

 

[Dachs]

Very interesting:
http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/History/E...y/Crusader_inscription_Arabic_14-Nov-2011.htm
It's an Arabic inscription setup by the Emperor Frederick II, seemingly on the walls of the city of Jaffa. Make you rethink what you thought you knew about cultural relations in the Crusading era? Does it just confirm what you already thought about Frederick II? Or is it merely a piece of rare evidence confirming the boring fact that the crusaders and their rulers just had to get on with life in the place they lived?

That actually seems like it confirms the popular reading of the Sixth Crusade to a T

 

[Yui108]

seems kind of standard for frederick II hohenstaufen. Also, that article lionizes his incredibly untenable achievements too much.

 

[Verbose]

Very interesting:
http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/History/E...y/Crusader_inscription_Arabic_14-Nov-2011.htm
It's an Arabic inscription setup by the Emperor Frederick II, seemingly on the walls of the city of Jaffa. Make you rethink what you thought you knew about cultural relations in the Crusading era? Does it just confirm what you already thought about Frederick II? Or is it merely a piece of rare evidence confirming the boring fact that the crusaders and their rulers just had to get on with life in the place they lived?

As said, seems like Frederick allright.

And he didn't live there. It's one of the major criticisms levelled against his stab at politics in the Holy Land. He sort of rode in and preassured the crusader states into line, and then left. (Having his lands in Italy invaded by the Papal armies helped with that.) The way he played it certainly seemed novel, and at least he didn't achieve less than anyone else having a crack at things, possibly more, except not a permanent fix of anything.

Still, compare it to St Louis crusade a couple of decades later, and Frederick's approach was at the very least as successful, and a damn sight more cost-effective in both blood and money.