Freedom of Religion: Discussion

[Tycoon101]

If you decide to change, dont forget to change your sig!

No. I'm going to be MORE Christian, not LESS Christian. You misunderstood my comment.

 

[GenMarshall]

Germany and Austria, for other examples...

Look in article 4 in the Basic Law for the Federal Republic of Germany which states that: "the freedom of religion, conscience and the freedom of confessing one's religious or philosophical beliefs are inviolable. Uninfringed religious practice is guaranteed."

 

[puglover]

Freedom of Religion brings with it freedom of thought. It allows beliefs to be tested and tried by the logic of others, and thus made stronger.

 

[Tycoon101]

The one way to solve this entire problem is to go Communist and outlaw ALL religeons!

J/K

There may be places that do not recognize Free Religeon, but I don't plan on stopping them, if they refuse to accept Free Religeon, then they have the right. Although I disagree with them.

Puglover: Do you practice Norrisanity? Just looking at you signature...

 

[tombeef]

In fact it is a human right.

Universal Declaration of Human Rights, article 2:

Yes, but as stated, it is not followed in every country.

 

[ironduck]

I am glad that its inplace world wide and not just in the United States .

Though it disapoints me that there are nations in the world, especialy Theocratic Islamic nations that restrict religion and persecute thoes who dont conform to the state religion, Iran is an example .

Yes, there are plenty of oppresive regimes out there. But someone brought up human rights and this declaration is the most universal document on human rights. There are other related documents such as the European Convention on Human Rights which provides the legal framework for the European Court of Human Rights.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Convention_on_Human_Rights

 

[Inqvisitor]

Look in article 4 in the Basic Law for the Federal Republic of Germany which states that: "the freedom of religion, conscience and the freedom of confessing one's religious or philosophical beliefs are inviolable. Uninfringed religious practice is guaranteed."

Quite a few men sitting in prison right now for denying official state religious dogmas would say otherwise...

 

[Tycoon101]

Yes, but as stated, it is not followed in every country.

Why shouldn't itbe followed? Is it the fact that many countries are run by dictators? Dictators who have a huge power base in a particular religeon.

(I hate the period of an argument where noone's arguing and the thread sinks to the 2nd page )

 

[Tycoon101]

Quite a few men sitting in prison right now for denying official state religious dogmas would say otherwise...

I don't understand what you mean.

 

[Left]

Quite a few men sitting in prison right now for denying official state religious dogmas would say otherwise...

What is the state religion of Germany?

 

[Xenocrates]

There's no difference between Inqvisitor's point of view and that of the Taliban.

You guys seem to think that religion is a solitary affair of people counting beads and praying in private or something. Most religions also involve societal behaviours that can weaken the power of the state, by causing division.

In the private worship form, I see no problem with freedom of religion, but in its communal form I can see times when it's damaging and indeed history has proven that to be the case. But although I am suspicious of communal religions, I can see no way of eliminating them.

 

[Stylesjl]

Quite a few men sitting in prison right now for denying official state religious dogmas would say otherwise...

Are you going to back your claims up or just troll some more?

 

[ironduck]

What is the state religion of Germany?

There is none. State and church is separated. Further, protestants and catholics have about the same amount of members in Germany, and then there's a slew of other religions..

 

[Inqvisitor]

What is the state religion of Germany?

It's central dogma is based around the belief in the paschal sacrifice of six million Jews, which they hope to replace the Crucifixion of Christ with as the defining moment of religious history. If you don't have enough blind faith to believe in it, it's off in the paddywagon with you.

 

[ironduck]

It's central dogma is based around the belief in the paschal sacrifice of six million Jews, which they hope to replace the Crucifixion of Christ with as the defining moment of religious history. If you don't have enough blind faith to believe in it, it's off in the paddywagon with you.

Not surprised to see you're a holocaust denier.

 

[puglover]

Puglover: Do you practice Norrisanity? Just looking at you signature...

His exalted high priest at your service.

 

[Inqvisitor]

Not surprised to see you're a holocaust denier.

I thought this was all about free discussion of ideas. Are non-Christians "Crucifixion-deniers?" Should they punished?

 

[ironduck]

I thought this was all about free discussion of ideas. Are non-Christians "Crucifixion-deniers?" Should they punished?

Actually you wouldn't be breaking any law in my country for denying the holocaust, neither would I suggest that you should be.

However, there is enough evidence if you actually want to learn. You should try looking outside your fascist club sometime.

 

[tombeef]

Not surprised to see you're a holocaust denier.

Well, if someone believes the holocaust was fake, and can defend their belief, then they're certainly entitled to their opinion. Freedom of opinion, religion, etc. is a right.

 

[ironduck]

Well, if someone believes the holocaust was fake, and can defend their belief, then they're certainly entitled to their opinion. Freedom of opinion, religion, etc. is a right.

I have not said otherwise.

I personally find his views disgusting, however.