Still slowly working my way to a slow win, I reckon it'll be around 1800AD for my game. Japan has been destroyed next up is either Brennus or Huayna Capac. Capac has just declared war on my friend Frederick and is nearest and largest (but not near to my Japan destroying stack of catapults and elephants) so he's probably next. 1610AD at the moment, I'll be first to Liberalism next turn, my research is starting to creep up again, it's been at 30% most of the game so far, but I've just traded for banking so soon I'll be in the money. A good move was capturing the pyramids from Cyrus to run police state when monarchy just isn't good enough to combat war weariness.