aronnax
Let your spirit be free
There are some things I find strange....
I think that libya will enter the democratic world. Jump on the same fraudulent wagon as most of the "free world". People will vote in great numbers. And the western backed puppet will ofcourse win the elections. There will be no real democratically elected head of an oil state atleast not when we have the influence to make it so.
I hope not but I think this is what will happen. Looking at Iraq and Afghanistan.
And looking back in history, on the top of my mind, I cant find any western backed invasions, revolts or revolutions that were really good for the peoples.
Maybe some of you can refresh my mind
Thundering typhoons! I have woken up in 1970s in Latin America.
It is not the help getting rid of the tyrants I worry about.
its the help afterwards...
But in the case of Egypt. yeah the west did NOTHING to help topple Mubarak.
The west supplied him with his machinery, money and everything else to keep the egyptians down. All in the name of a war on terror. And it is the same for Gaddhafi, Bashar Al Assad, King Saud, Nouri el Maliki, Hamid Karzai and nearly every other leader in the middle east. Look at Bahrain?
ALL of them supported by us western nations untill they fall then we dont support them anymore and support the winners so we can get some easy influence in order to exploit them further.
No one is going to dispute that Western Nations prefer stability under a non-Stalinesque dictator than instability and war. But what would you prefer the democratic nations do? Boycott half the world? Because South Africa and North Korea are a perfect examples of it not helping at all. It's better to reach out economically than to shun them politically, in the hopes that economic development will lead to the loosening of political restrictions.
No one will say that China or Vietnam are leaders in human rights protection, but the economic development of the last 30 years have brought more loosening of freedoms in the two countries than 40 years of refusing to talk with China and Vietnam.
After all, which is better? A nation that actively suppresses freedom of speech and murders it's people en mass, or a nation that only just suppresses freedom of speech and is willing to, with each coming year, let there be a little more leeway.
It's a unspoken tolerance of the Western Nations in hope for a better future.
What the Arab Spring did was provide an opportunity for things to take another path.
Especially when rulers start to mow down their people.
China, is I agree, a very powerful player in Africa & Middle east. Why do you think the "international community" now are busy getting some influence? We are loosing a whole continent and the whole oil region to China!
But it is the same imperialism China is practicing as we in the west are.
Libya =/= Africa
Africa is a not a child being pulled by both China and the West.
China and the West may be competing for economic trade and political influence, but they are not controlling the policies of the African countries like they own the place.