TheLastOne36
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i'll play tomorow i'm exhausted. (just returned from Poland)
Gandhi, you jerk!
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njorls
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Are you going to play your turnset LastOne?
TheLastOne36
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In before turn:
I see some units unmoved. An axemen is moved to Varanasi to later take on that barb city.
I steal Construction from Gilgamesh.
Dropped Espionage down to 30, as we can now see Gilga's and Hammy's cities.
Turn 1:
Delhi finishes settler now Budhist Missionary(1 turn)
New Delhi completes Macemen, begans Crossbowmen.
I upgraded a warrior to a macemen, i'm gonna use it to take on that barb city.
Turn 2: I began colloseum (2 turns) in Delhi as we've reached it's happy cap. We'll also need an aquaduct on that city to.
Turn 3:
Burn BABY BURN!!!
Turn 4:
Captured that Barb Worker with the mace.
Turn 5:
Great Prophet Born in Delhi. Start Golden Age. (sorry for not discussion it with group, but only other option was to gain 1000 or so to research of divine right)
Turn 6: Settle Marble city. Upgrade that Galley to a caravel. Set it to explore.
Turn 7:
Paper comes in, Start Printing press. (i think we need it)
Turn 8: See Suryavaram's borders:
Turn 9:
Steal Aesthetics from Hammy:
And Literature from Gilga:
Meet Suryavaram:
Hammy's map:
Before and after:
Also traded for gilga's Map. (asked for a good friend)
AND
I gifted Suryvaram Priesthood so he is now pleased with us and will now trade his world map.
So:
And:
Turn 10:
He asked me this:
I accepted.
And this happened:
Someone should make a city there.
Pretty Cool:
The last civ is Sitting bull. We haven't met him though.
Hatty's map reveals more of him.
http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/108694/Gandhi_AD-1110.CivBeyondSwordSave
I see some units unmoved. An axemen is moved to Varanasi to later take on that barb city.
I steal Construction from Gilgamesh.
Dropped Espionage down to 30, as we can now see Gilga's and Hammy's cities.
Turn 1:
Delhi finishes settler now Budhist Missionary(1 turn)
New Delhi completes Macemen, begans Crossbowmen.
I upgraded a warrior to a macemen, i'm gonna use it to take on that barb city.
Turn 2: I began colloseum (2 turns) in Delhi as we've reached it's happy cap. We'll also need an aquaduct on that city to.
Turn 3:
Burn BABY BURN!!!
Turn 4:
Captured that Barb Worker with the mace.
Turn 5:
Great Prophet Born in Delhi. Start Golden Age. (sorry for not discussion it with group, but only other option was to gain 1000 or so to research of divine right)
Turn 6: Settle Marble city. Upgrade that Galley to a caravel. Set it to explore.
Turn 7:
Paper comes in, Start Printing press. (i think we need it)
Turn 8: See Suryavaram's borders:
Turn 9:
Steal Aesthetics from Hammy:
And Literature from Gilga:
Meet Suryavaram:
Hammy's map:
Before and after:
Also traded for gilga's Map. (asked for a good friend)
AND
I gifted Suryvaram Priesthood so he is now pleased with us and will now trade his world map.
So:
And:
Turn 10:
He asked me this:
I accepted.
And this happened:
Someone should make a city there.
Pretty Cool:
The last civ is Sitting bull. We haven't met him though.
Hatty's map reveals more of him.
http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/108694/Gandhi_AD-1110.CivBeyondSwordSave
negyvenketto
Scientist
on the steals and the map trades.Got it. Hopefully can play this evening (3-5h from now).
negyvenketto
Scientist
Kind of a builder turnset.
Few things. Build colosseum for happiness when we don't have drama to use culture slider, but the city still don't have buddhist temple even though it gives not only happiness but +2
from AP? 
Let's build temples everywhere!
We are philosophical but cottaged up everything and don't have a decent GP farm. If we clear all the jungles around the culture bomb city and put farms there, it could be a GP farm. (Needs chain irrigation from the south.)
1110 AD Switch Varanasi to FP, it can finish under GA.
Built 2 cities, marked a few more on the map
Finished Hagia Sophia, started Sankore Univ. in the capital. Maybe it could have been The Great Lib, but I decided to wait for the marble coming online. But I realized it's not available 'cos barb cities blocking the coastal trade routes. I sent 2 maces to raze those cities.
We met Elizabath
The next AP vote result. Only 2 of us can vote? Let's spread buddhism one and only 1 small city to every civ and we may win a quick diplo.
The 2nd new city
1180 AD Printing Press -> Philo.
1st barb city razed, one more to go and we have marble. Sooner or later we can settle on these islands.
A suggested city on the south. A mace and a settler is a few tiles away. In the meantime I built roads to the resources. Maybe a better GP farm city?
The tech situation. Gilga is researching HBR which we can steal soon. The other guys are quite far so we can't steal at a reasonable cost (at least I feel).
The save
Few things. Build colosseum for happiness when we don't have drama to use culture slider, but the city still don't have buddhist temple even though it gives not only happiness but +2
from AP? Let's build temples everywhere!We are philosophical but cottaged up everything and don't have a decent GP farm. If we clear all the jungles around the culture bomb city and put farms there, it could be a GP farm. (Needs chain irrigation from the south.)
1110 AD Switch Varanasi to FP, it can finish under GA.
Built 2 cities, marked a few more on the map
Finished Hagia Sophia, started Sankore Univ. in the capital. Maybe it could have been The Great Lib, but I decided to wait for the marble coming online. But I realized it's not available 'cos barb cities blocking the coastal trade routes. I sent 2 maces to raze those cities.
We met Elizabath
The next AP vote result. Only 2 of us can vote? Let's spread buddhism one and only 1 small city to every civ and we may win a quick diplo.
The 2nd new city
1180 AD Printing Press -> Philo.
1st barb city razed, one more to go and we have marble. Sooner or later we can settle on these islands.
A suggested city on the south. A mace and a settler is a few tiles away. In the meantime I built roads to the resources. Maybe a better GP farm city?
The tech situation. Gilga is researching HBR which we can steal soon. The other guys are quite far so we can't steal at a reasonable cost (at least I feel).
The save
TheLastOne36
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nice turns to.
I'm sorry i didn't provide a more detailed Report. I was rushing a bit.
I'm sorry i didn't provide a more detailed Report. I was rushing a bit.
1889
Mayor of H-Marker Lake
How about Nationalism next, then we can use the marble bonus for Taj Mahal and another Golden Age.
The Khmer and Native Americans never found a religion of their own. They might be our best bet for missionary work.
The Khmer and Native Americans never found a religion of their own. They might be our best bet for missionary work.
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Did we meet Sitting Bull yet? I didn't im my roumd. (even though i got his maps)
negyvenketto
Scientist
I forget to go and meet him, the caravel returned home to pick a missionary. We can do it in the next turnset. Also forgot to mention the GArtist is born and heading towards its destiny.
njorls
Prince
Got it.
Looks like the goals for my round are to found the deer/fish/copper city in the south as GP farm, culture bomb the culture city, and spread Buddhism to one small city per AI civ.
Looks like the goals for my round are to found the deer/fish/copper city in the south as GP farm, culture bomb the culture city, and spread Buddhism to one small city per AI civ.
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^ and meet sitting bull. Maybe he's more advanced?
njorls
Prince
Turn 0: (Turn @180, 1200 AD)
Changed Lahore to build Work Boat
Propose Varanasi and Madras be production cities, and only build farms there
Laugh at Gilgamesh's swordsmen fortified on cows under our culture, you keep those cows safe for us now, boys
Philo in in 3 turns, but I don't think we should switch to Pacifism until we have a good GP farm. I will try to get monastaries for all our religions so we can build missionaries for them
Buddhist Monastaries and temples are high priority with hammer and beaker bonus from our wonders
Turn 1: Hatty won't open borders, gifted her MC as it was cheapest tech, theology was the other choice but we may want hagia sophia. Got her to cautious.
Barb razing army lands, Gauth defened by 2 archers
Turn 2: Revolt to Slavery as we're running Caste with no specialists. Whip work boat in Lahore.
Barb razing maceman defeats 1 archer, other one heals
Turn 3: Philosophy in. Set research to Music for GA. See below for why I change this.
Gilgamesh wanted to trade world maps but I declined. I believe we must accept AI demands but can decline AI trade requests right? Apologies if I should have accepted this.
Univ of Sankore completed, starting Great Library in Delhi
Gaul razed, cuts GL from 7 turns to 5
Hatty opens borders, missionary sent to Elephantine, her lowest pop city
Clue in and realize Elizabeth researched Music already, set research to Education for Liberalism. She also founded Taoism. Thought is to take Astronomy off Lib and found colonies faster. And we can get Privateers faster too, which greatly increses our being a jerk capabilities
Madurai founded, there even was a blue dot on the city spot, it's always rare with the AI and I agree on anything
Turn 4: Surya vassalises Hatty, guess she got a bad start
Culture bomb arrives in Bangalore
Zimbir to the south is at 40% indian
Not sure how to increase culture here, an irrigation chain for more artists would steal 2 cottage spots from Pataliputra (it's got no food surplus tiles)
Turn 5: Buddhist Missionary fails to spread Buddhism in Elephantine
All it had was Confucianism (same as rest of her cities)
Turn 7: HBR stolen from Hammurabil;. Then I realised we don't have horses. The urge to be a jerk was unresistable though. Sometimes jerks can't be choosy.
Turn 8: Hatty offers Feudalism and 60 gold for CS. Didn't seem so bad so I accepted.
GL finished in Delhi
44 gold from hut in barb island
Turn 9: Great engineer born in Delhi!
Hostile villagers popped from hut... I just hate waiting for explorers since the AI might pop them. They're all warriors so maceman should clean up on them.
Buddhism spread to Angkor Thom, Surya's smallest city
Turn 10: Missionary loaded onto Caravel. Spy loaded onto Caravel. Maceman kills barb warrior between turns, and another this turn, no health lost. Suggest sending 1 south to pop some more huts.
More spies built to send to foreign lands, and caravels to send them on
Axeman exploring the SW tip of our land beats barb sword and has to heal
Realize I sent caravels home instead of meeting Sitting Bull
Parthenon due in 3 turns in Varanasi
Education due in 1 turn
Changed Lahore to build Work Boat
Propose Varanasi and Madras be production cities, and only build farms there
Laugh at Gilgamesh's swordsmen fortified on cows under our culture, you keep those cows safe for us now, boys
Philo in in 3 turns, but I don't think we should switch to Pacifism until we have a good GP farm. I will try to get monastaries for all our religions so we can build missionaries for them
Buddhist Monastaries and temples are high priority with hammer and beaker bonus from our wonders
Turn 1: Hatty won't open borders, gifted her MC as it was cheapest tech, theology was the other choice but we may want hagia sophia. Got her to cautious.
Barb razing army lands, Gauth defened by 2 archers
Turn 2: Revolt to Slavery as we're running Caste with no specialists. Whip work boat in Lahore.
Barb razing maceman defeats 1 archer, other one heals
Turn 3: Philosophy in. Set research to Music for GA. See below for why I change this.
Gilgamesh wanted to trade world maps but I declined. I believe we must accept AI demands but can decline AI trade requests right? Apologies if I should have accepted this.
Univ of Sankore completed, starting Great Library in Delhi
Gaul razed, cuts GL from 7 turns to 5
Hatty opens borders, missionary sent to Elephantine, her lowest pop city
Clue in and realize Elizabeth researched Music already, set research to Education for Liberalism. She also founded Taoism. Thought is to take Astronomy off Lib and found colonies faster. And we can get Privateers faster too, which greatly increses our being a jerk capabilities
Madurai founded, there even was a blue dot on the city spot, it's always rare with the AI and I agree on anything
Turn 4: Surya vassalises Hatty, guess she got a bad start
Culture bomb arrives in Bangalore
Zimbir to the south is at 40% indian
Not sure how to increase culture here, an irrigation chain for more artists would steal 2 cottage spots from Pataliputra (it's got no food surplus tiles)
Turn 5: Buddhist Missionary fails to spread Buddhism in Elephantine
All it had was Confucianism (same as rest of her cities)Turn 7: HBR stolen from Hammurabil;. Then I realised we don't have horses. The urge to be a jerk was unresistable though. Sometimes jerks can't be choosy.
Turn 8: Hatty offers Feudalism and 60 gold for CS. Didn't seem so bad so I accepted.
GL finished in Delhi
44 gold from hut in barb island
Turn 9: Great engineer born in Delhi!
Hostile villagers popped from hut... I just hate waiting for explorers since the AI might pop them. They're all warriors so maceman should clean up on them.
Buddhism spread to Angkor Thom, Surya's smallest city
Turn 10: Missionary loaded onto Caravel. Spy loaded onto Caravel. Maceman kills barb warrior between turns, and another this turn, no health lost. Suggest sending 1 south to pop some more huts.
More spies built to send to foreign lands, and caravels to send them on
Axeman exploring the SW tip of our land beats barb sword and has to heal
Realize I sent caravels home instead of meeting Sitting Bull
Parthenon due in 3 turns in Varanasi
Education due in 1 turn
TheLastOne36
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OK Some info.
1. I learned from watching Lkdenters attempt on Cultural Conquest, the more units there is in a city, the harder it is to flip. And look at how many units are there in Zimbir!!!
2. Priveteers are awesome, i love those units.
3. I noticed we still haven't met sitting bull...
1. I learned from watching Lkdenters attempt on Cultural Conquest, the more units there is in a city, the harder it is to flip. And look at how many units are there in Zimbir!!!
2. Priveteers are awesome, i love those units.
3. I noticed we still haven't met sitting bull...
negyvenketto
Scientist
Yes, but if we get more than 50% @ Zimbir, we can propose an AP resolution like 'give Zimbir to India'
So go for Music and the GA
The Engineer should build a nice wonder for us, if no better option, NE in the GP farm.
2. I like privateers, too. We need Astronomy and Chemistry to be able to build them.
We can still colonize those islands before Astronomy and should before others do.
njorls
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Elizabeth was first to Music.
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AND btw your up.
1889
Mayor of H-Marker Lake
He just played. I'll be getting to it soon.
Some plans:
Rather than start major espionage against Elisabeth to get her techs I'll focus on Gilgamesh, just for fun, and build up some points against Babylon because they are our only real competition.
We missed the free artist, but we can still use the engineer to get Notre Dame and we can still get Liberalism's free tech and Economics’ free merchant.
I also want to try founding some more colonies.
Some plans:
Rather than start major espionage against Elisabeth to get her techs I'll focus on Gilgamesh, just for fun, and build up some points against Babylon because they are our only real competition.
We missed the free artist, but we can still use the engineer to get Notre Dame and we can still get Liberalism's free tech and Economics’ free merchant.
I also want to try founding some more colonies.
KMadCandy
giggling permanoob
drive-by comment:
only if Zimbir belongs to a voting member of the AP. can't be a full member and i think that's gilga so he is? i've used spies to change the other guy to FR in cases like that, demotes 'em to voting members *giggle*
Yes, but if we get more than 50% @ Zimbir, we can propose an AP resolution like 'give Zimbir to India'
only if Zimbir belongs to a voting member of the AP. can't be a full member and i think that's gilga so he is? i've used spies to change the other guy to FR in cases like that, demotes 'em to voting members *giggle*
1889
Mayor of H-Marker Lake
Thanks for the tip. I'll send some Christian missionaries over there so we're ready when the time comes.
1889
Mayor of H-Marker Lake
1300: switched research to Engineering, Delhi starts National Epic, New Delhi starts settler, Rush Library in Bangalore.
1310: Accept map trade with Khmer. To avoid other rip offs I sell map around. Calcutta finish spy starts Library, Bangalore starts temple.
1320: Khmer offers 70 gold for Metal casting. Give it to him but begin planning his fall.
1330: Galley sunk by barbs, Elizabeth demands theology, Delhi starts temple, Vijay, Agra, Hyderabad start Lighthouses, Pata starts Maori Statues, Vara finishes Pantheon starts Market.
1340: Open boarder with England. Finish Engineering, resume Education. New Delhi starts market, Settler and worker head out to the colonies. Bangalore starts Notre Dame.
1350: Map trade with Babylon. Finish Edu start Liberalism. Delhi and Calcutta start universities. A clumsy apprentice sets fire to the Forge in Delhi, I spend 67 gold to have it rebuilt.
1360: Renegotiate trade deals to snatch up all available gold.
1370: Delhi builds wall, dont need a wall but it is a prerequisite for castles which boost espionage spending and give another trade route. Vara starts library. Spy sabotages Library in Kish, just trying to keep Sumerian culture low.
1380: Delhi starts castle, Agra starts harbor. AP resident has option to order an end to trade with Egypt but I decline.
1390: Finish Liberalism, take Astronomy as free tech and start Gunpowder. New Delhi starts Library, Vijay starts harbor. Great Spy is born to build Scotland Yard in Delhi (+100% espionage spending there, which is 21 extra points per turn.) Engineer rush Notre Dame in Bangalore. Spread Christianity to two Summerian cities. Spy fails to destroy monastery in Kish.
1400: Delhi starts observatory, Medina starts harbor, Hyderabad starts courthouse. Galley sunk by barbarian, but settler and worker got off first.
For next round:
Might be time to reexamine civics. Free speech/ Caste System/ Free Religion or Pacifism?
We finish Gunpowder in 2 then Chemistry takes 3 and well be able to build privateers. Guilds, Banking, Economics will only take a few turns and gives us a free Merchant and free market.
Delhi is already set to give up our next GP in only 9 turns, set those specialists so you get the kind you want.
A galleon is under construction to bring some maces to the other island and capture those barbarian cities.
This is the first time Ive had a positive ratting with every body, the diplo victory should be a cinch. Part of it though is that many of them still dont have contact. (We are the only civ Babylon has contact with!) Privateers should be able to keep it that way.
1310: Accept map trade with Khmer. To avoid other rip offs I sell map around. Calcutta finish spy starts Library, Bangalore starts temple.
1320: Khmer offers 70 gold for Metal casting. Give it to him but begin planning his fall.
1330: Galley sunk by barbs, Elizabeth demands theology, Delhi starts temple, Vijay, Agra, Hyderabad start Lighthouses, Pata starts Maori Statues, Vara finishes Pantheon starts Market.
1340: Open boarder with England. Finish Engineering, resume Education. New Delhi starts market, Settler and worker head out to the colonies. Bangalore starts Notre Dame.
1350: Map trade with Babylon. Finish Edu start Liberalism. Delhi and Calcutta start universities. A clumsy apprentice sets fire to the Forge in Delhi, I spend 67 gold to have it rebuilt.
1360: Renegotiate trade deals to snatch up all available gold.
1370: Delhi builds wall, dont need a wall but it is a prerequisite for castles which boost espionage spending and give another trade route. Vara starts library. Spy sabotages Library in Kish, just trying to keep Sumerian culture low.
1380: Delhi starts castle, Agra starts harbor. AP resident has option to order an end to trade with Egypt but I decline.
1390: Finish Liberalism, take Astronomy as free tech and start Gunpowder. New Delhi starts Library, Vijay starts harbor. Great Spy is born to build Scotland Yard in Delhi (+100% espionage spending there, which is 21 extra points per turn.) Engineer rush Notre Dame in Bangalore. Spread Christianity to two Summerian cities. Spy fails to destroy monastery in Kish.
1400: Delhi starts observatory, Medina starts harbor, Hyderabad starts courthouse. Galley sunk by barbarian, but settler and worker got off first.
For next round:
Might be time to reexamine civics. Free speech/ Caste System/ Free Religion or Pacifism?
We finish Gunpowder in 2 then Chemistry takes 3 and well be able to build privateers. Guilds, Banking, Economics will only take a few turns and gives us a free Merchant and free market.
Delhi is already set to give up our next GP in only 9 turns, set those specialists so you get the kind you want.
A galleon is under construction to bring some maces to the other island and capture those barbarian cities.
This is the first time Ive had a positive ratting with every body, the diplo victory should be a cinch. Part of it though is that many of them still dont have contact. (We are the only civ Babylon has contact with!) Privateers should be able to keep it that way.
