Thanks a lot for releasing both versions
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Thanks a lot for releasing both versions
Gary Childress
Student for and of life
You're welcome.
I'm going to divert a moment away from the Russians and do a Green Beret next. El Justo's Vietnam scenario is one of my favorites and this Green Beret will hopefully fit in nicely.
[EDIT] Below are units I hope to complete sometime this year to add to El Justo's Vietnam scenario:
These are some assorted color schemes. At Civ scale the differences are minimal but noticable.
General 666
Culturebringer
El Justo's Vietnam scenario is one of my favorites and this Green Beret will hopefully fit in nicely.
I see we agree in both points mentioned
Gary Childress
Student for and of life
Does anyone have a color pic of the uniform of an ARVN (South Vietnamese) paratrooper?
Much thanks!
Much thanks!
Weren't they just using the same uniforms as the US?
Gary Childress
Student for and of life
Probably a good deduction. Question, though, did they wear berets or helmets?
A quick Google search on "ARVN paratrooper picture" showed helmets, for what it's worth.
Ares de Borg
Norman Knight
Those are rangers and special forces, not paratrooper 
Ares de Borg
Norman Knight
So? The SV Special Forces were airborne, too.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_of_the_Republic_of_Vietnam_Special_Forces
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_of_the_Republic_of_Vietnam_Special_Forces
So are many viruses, yet they don't wear camo and are not classified as paratroopers 
wolf_66
Lone Civer
Hi Gary
Here some comments as you requested
Uniforms & camo.
Youre right: Most of uniform were just green but to help differentiate you COULD follow this guideline.
-Camo for ROK Marines shown in pic 1 (Pics are numbered left to right)
-Camo for ARVN can be different. Some Bns used camo as in pic 2, other Bns used special forces tiger strip as pic 3. Pic 3 can also be used as unofficial but quite common camo for US Special Forces, such as Green Berets and LRRP
- The green uniform with red beret you used for ARVN Rangers should be used for ARVN Airborne troops instead. The same green tone but with helmet should be used for standard ARVN infantry.
-US infantry and USMC should use slightly different green + Flak vest and camouflaged helmet (less common in ARVN)
Weapons
ARVN infantry should be in two versions with M1 carabine (early) and with M16Assault rifle (later)
ARVN rangers, Airborne troops and ROK marines should be with M16 only
US troops should be with M16 (even if they used M14 and other rifles in early stages of war)
Please note M203 grenade launcher was quite uncommon in Vietnam. It was actually introduced in early 70s so M16 without GL is a more accurate choice.
If you want to fit your units with grenade launchers then you should use M79 instead but this would require a different animation.
Other weapons that you might want to consider are M3 grease gun SMG to equip US/ARVN Military police units or ARVN CIDG (see below) and machine guns / mortars/ RPG (for NVA/Vietcong)
Other Units
Too many Any decision is up to you. Here is just a list you can use to pick up what you want:
-US/ ARVN Combat engineers (same as standard infantry but with a couple more animations such as build and pillage/breach)
-NVA/VC sappers. These are elite assault troops with some abilities to break obstacles. Sometimes female. See pic 4
-US/ARVN heavy MG and or mortars
-NVA/VC heavy MG, mortars
-NVA/VC with RPG (same as infantrymen you did before but with different weapons
-US/ARVN MP (with SMG and Military dog, black jacket and helmet)
-ARVN CIDG (Civilian Irregular Defense Groups)
-VC local force. Black uniform, no helmet (use SE asia farmer hat instead if you want), old rifle. See pic 5
Please let me know if you need any further detail on specific units.
Also check your PM
Here some comments as you requested
Uniforms & camo.
Youre right: Most of uniform were just green but to help differentiate you COULD follow this guideline.
-Camo for ROK Marines shown in pic 1 (Pics are numbered left to right)
-Camo for ARVN can be different. Some Bns used camo as in pic 2, other Bns used special forces tiger strip as pic 3. Pic 3 can also be used as unofficial but quite common camo for US Special Forces, such as Green Berets and LRRP
- The green uniform with red beret you used for ARVN Rangers should be used for ARVN Airborne troops instead. The same green tone but with helmet should be used for standard ARVN infantry.
-US infantry and USMC should use slightly different green + Flak vest and camouflaged helmet (less common in ARVN)
Weapons
ARVN infantry should be in two versions with M1 carabine (early) and with M16Assault rifle (later)
ARVN rangers, Airborne troops and ROK marines should be with M16 only
US troops should be with M16 (even if they used M14 and other rifles in early stages of war)
Please note M203 grenade launcher was quite uncommon in Vietnam. It was actually introduced in early 70s so M16 without GL is a more accurate choice.
If you want to fit your units with grenade launchers then you should use M79 instead but this would require a different animation.
Other weapons that you might want to consider are M3 grease gun SMG to equip US/ARVN Military police units or ARVN CIDG (see below) and machine guns / mortars/ RPG (for NVA/Vietcong)
Other Units
Too many Any decision is up to you. Here is just a list you can use to pick up what you want:
-US/ ARVN Combat engineers (same as standard infantry but with a couple more animations such as build and pillage/breach)
-NVA/VC sappers. These are elite assault troops with some abilities to break obstacles. Sometimes female. See pic 4
-US/ARVN heavy MG and or mortars
-NVA/VC heavy MG, mortars
-NVA/VC with RPG (same as infantrymen you did before but with different weapons
-US/ARVN MP (with SMG and Military dog, black jacket and helmet)
-ARVN CIDG (Civilian Irregular Defense Groups)
-VC local force. Black uniform, no helmet (use SE asia farmer hat instead if you want), old rifle. See pic 5
Please let me know if you need any further detail on specific units.
Also check your PM
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Gary Childress
Student for and of life
What should the ARVN Rangers wear? In El Justo's scenario I know they wear red berets, however, it appears you are saying that the red berets would better be used for ARVN airborne instead. What about boonie hats for the ARVN Rangers?
Also I have a couple books on order with uniforms from the Vietnam era.
EDIT: Also what about troops from other nations, Australia, New Zealand, etc.?
Also I take it you would not want Civ color in the units?
Also I have a couple books on order with uniforms from the Vietnam era.
EDIT: Also what about troops from other nations, Australia, New Zealand, etc.?
Also I take it you would not want Civ color in the units?
wolf_66
Lone Civer
I think Boonie hats should be better for LRRP and Australian Infantry. Anyway, answering your question about ARVN Rangers is not so easy as these units were hard to define, ranging from elite assault forces to paramilitary police groups. Equipments and uniforms might vary accordingly. Assuming the first situation for civ purposes, I would say that a metal polished helmet (not with camo) such as the one in attached picture above could be a good one but the choice is up to you...
EDIT: To answer your latest questions:
Allied units would be nice to see. I take you can just have ANZAC Infantry for both Australia and NewZealand. Not sure it is worth to spent your time to other allied other than ROK such as Thai, Philippines etc as their involvement was not so big.
I generally like units without civ colors but, once again, the choice is up to you. If civ colored areas are not too big that would be OK and I can remove remove civ colors anyway... (please keep pallete simple if possible).
EDIT: To answer your latest questions:
Allied units would be nice to see. I take you can just have ANZAC Infantry for both Australia and NewZealand. Not sure it is worth to spent your time to other allied other than ROK such as Thai, Philippines etc as their involvement was not so big.
I generally like units without civ colors but, once again, the choice is up to you. If civ colored areas are not too big that would be OK and I can remove remove civ colors anyway... (please keep pallete simple if possible).
Moff Jerjerrod
Deity
I know this might not be related to the topic but after seeing that female VC sapper I think I would immediately surrender to her if we ever met in the jungle.
Goldflash
Civ III Modder, Civ VII Player
I am watching this thread with interest- I am planning a mod that would use the units wolf 66 is proposing, and I definitely definitely need them to have civ color.
Gary Childress
Student for and of life
I think a good start would be to compile some lists and then match up some units with weapons and uniforms. From there I can work on some previews for scrutiny.
I've identified these as most of the infantry units in EJ's Vietnam scenario:
These are the weapons I have which would maybe go with the Vietnam era:
Clothing items:
If you're up to it, Wolf_66 maybe you could put together a list matching up the units above with whatever weapons, clothing and colors or camo schemes you would like with them. It's up to you if you have the time and desire. Feel free to add any new units not listed as well.
I've identified these as most of the infantry units in EJ's Vietnam scenario:
Spoiler :
These are the weapons I have which would maybe go with the Vietnam era:
Spoiler :
Clothing items:
Spoiler :
If you're up to it, Wolf_66 maybe you could put together a list matching up the units above with whatever weapons, clothing and colors or camo schemes you would like with them. It's up to you if you have the time and desire. Feel free to add any new units not listed as well.
Goldflash
Civ III Modder, Civ VII Player
civcolorcivcolorcivolor plzplzplz thnks.
Gary Childress
Student for and of life
I'll see what I can put together. My ambitions probably already outweigh the time I have available for them. I don't know if I'll have time to do dual versions of these units and since they are specifically for EJ's Vietnam scenario I'll probably primarily do non-civ color versions. But if you have a few of the units listed above that you really want to use in your scenario I can do some of them as dual versions.
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