[GS] Gathering Storm Unique Infrastructure Elimination Thread

[679x]

2. Arabia - Madrasa [21]
3. Australia - Outback Station [22]
5. Brazil - Street Carnival / Copacabana [5]
6. Canada - Ice Hockey Rink [14]
7. China - Great Wall [13] (12+1) I am of the opinion that this building isn't actually worth building until Flight. I totally understand why you might want to leave it at that and downvote this improvement. I don't blame ya - most of the other things on this list don't have that issue. But I'm upvoting the Great Wall just once because I think it's great for a culture victory. Each one gives +4 tourism with Flight, on top of +4 gold/culture. That tourism certainly adds up! My strategy is to only put wall end segments where my borders are soon to expand, so that I can connect them to the rest of a wall chain later. Near Flight, though, I ramp it up to 4000 by removing farms and replacing them with chains of walls, and snaking walls wherever they can possibly fit. Any tundra/desert tiles get the Great Wall treatment as well, even well before Flight, since there's no improvement you can put there at that point anyway. Especially in a Petra city. Wow. A Petra city surrounded by these walls is crazy yield $$$$. On top of that, the gold you get from these walls can help fund purchasing of more tiles near enemy borders just so you can extend your chain of walls. Either way, I end up getting a ton of tourism from 'em, and the planning required due to the wall restrictions can actually make it more fun. If you don't mind having more planning/management with your tiles, I urge you to try this out! (But yes, the defense bonus is pretty darn useless IMO)
8. Cree - Mekewap [18] I'm also disappointed that something is getting bombarded by repeated downvotes from the same person all the time. Even if it were not quite as good as this one is. I'll probably have to spare this an upvote tomorrow if I remember.
9. Dutch - Polder [13]
10. Egypt - Sphinx [19]
11. England - Royal Navy Dockyard [20]
13. Georgia - Tsikhe [8]
14. Germany - Hansa [25]
15. Greece - Acropolis [24]
17. Inca - Qhapaq Ñan [4]
18. Inca - Terrace Farm [24]
19. India - Stepwell [14]
20. Indonesia - Kampung [23]
22. Khmer - Prasat [16] (19-3) This thing is pretty unwieldy, in my experience. I spend lots of time just trying to find an apostle to kill my missionaries so I can get a relic, since missionaries can't attack. I'd kind of rather just build Mont St. Michel and save faith for apostles and just do it the normal way... send your holy men on a suicide mission in lands they've never seen and wait until pieces of their looted corpse are sent back to me in the form of 'Blood of the Martyr' or 'Tooth of the Prophet' or 'Bones of the Magi' or whatever. Like normal people do!
23. Kongo - Mbanza [19]
24. Korea - Seowon [22]
25. Macedon - Basilikoi Paides [23]
26. Mali - Suguba [23]
27. Maori - Marae [23]
29. Mapuche - Chemamull [21]
30. Mongolia - Ordu [11]
33. Ottomans - Grand Bazaar [17]
34. Persia - Pairidaeza [23]
35. Phoenicia - Cothon [28]
36. Poland - Sukiennice [21]
37. Rome - Bath [21]
38. Russia - Lavra [28]
39. Scotland - Golf Course [16]
41. Spain - Mission [22]
42. Sumeria - Ziggurat [24]
43. Sweden - Open-Air Museum [22]
44. Sweden - Queen's Bibliotheque [9]
45. Zulu - Ikanda [16]

 

[Kmart_Elvis]

2. Arabia - Madrasa [21]
3. Australia - Outback Station [22]
5. Brazil - Street Carnival / Copacabana [5]
6. Canada - Ice Hockey Rink [14]
7. China - Great Wall [13]
8. Cree - Mekewap [18]
9. Dutch - Polder [13]
10. Egypt - Sphinx [19]
11. England - Royal Navy Dockyard [20]
13. Georgia - Tsikhe [5] (8-3) I am glad that this has been buffed, and is nowhere near the bottom basement joke it once was, but ultimately it's still not that great. It's still replacement for Renaissance walls. And what I really dislike about this is that it's the only Infrastructure you can be locked out of building as it's only buildable in a small time frame.
14. Germany - Hansa [25]
15. Greece - Acropolis [24]
17. Inca - Qhapaq Ñan [4]
18. Inca - Terrace Farm [24]
19. India - Stepwell [14]
20. Indonesia - Kampung [23]
22. Khmer - Prasat [16]
23. Kongo - Mbanza [19]
24. Korea - Seowon [22]
25. Macedon - Basilikoi Paides [23]
26. Mali - Suguba [23]
27. Maori - Marae [23]
29. Mapuche - Chemamull [21]
30. Mongolia - Ordu [11]
33. Ottomans - Grand Bazaar [17]
34. Persia - Pairidaeza [23]
35. Phoenicia - Cothon [28]
36. Poland - Sukiennice [21]
37. Rome - Bath [21]
38. Russia - Lavra [28]
39. Scotland - Golf Course [16]
41. Spain - Mission [22]
42. Sumeria - Ziggurat [24]
43. Sweden - Open-Air Museum [22]
44. Sweden - Queen's Bibliotheque [10] (9+1) You do give up extra spy stuff and faith-buying military, but you're Sweden and don't really need that. This building is perfect for the way they should be played. 6 slots is nothing to sneeze at. A very reliable way to have space for all your GWAMs, giving you more tourism and culture, and bringing you closer to victory.
45. Zulu - Ikanda [16]

 

[Pietato]

39. Scotland - Golf Course 15 [18-3] It reminds me of good things in life, but in game it sucks

39. Scotland - Golf Course 16 [15+1]Reminds me of Trump. I like Trump.

2. Arabia - Madrasa [21]
3. Australia - Outback Station [22]
5. Brazil - Street Carnival / Copacabana [5]
6. Canada - Ice Hockey Rink [14]
7. China - Great Wall [13]
8. Cree - Mekewap [19] There is a reason this nearly won the last UI game. Until Mali joined, the Cree easily had the highest income AND gained other large bonuses. I seriously doubt the zealot has even played as Cree.
9. Dutch - Polder [13]
10. Egypt - Sphinx [19]
11. England - Royal Navy Dockyard [20]
13. Georgia - Tsikhe [5]
14. Germany - Hansa [25]
15. Greece - Acropolis [24]
17. Inca - Qhapaq Ñan [4]
18. Inca - Terrace Farm [24]
19. India - Stepwell [14]
20. Indonesia - Kampung [23]
22. Khmer - Prasat [16]
23. Kongo - Mbanza [19]
24. Korea - Seowon [22]
25. Macedon - Basilikoi Paides [23]
26. Mali - Suguba [23]
27. Maori - Marae [23]
29. Mapuche - Chemamull [21]
30. Mongolia - Ordu [11]
33. Ottomans - Grand Bazaar [17]
34. Persia - Pairidaeza [23]
35. Phoenicia - Cothon [28]
36. Poland - Sukiennice [21]
37. Rome - Bath [21]
38. Russia - Lavra [28]
39. Scotland - Golf Course [12] Much worse than CS UI, restricted, and meme-levels of awful. This needs to be impeached.
41. Spain - Mission [22]
42. Sumeria - Ziggurat [24]
43. Sweden - Open-Air Museum [22]
44. Sweden - Queen's Bibliotheque [10]
45. Zulu - Ikanda [16]

 

[Leucarum]

2. Arabia - Madrasa [21]
3. Australia - Outback Station [22]
5. Brazil - Street Carnival / Copacabana [5]
6. Canada - Ice Hockey Rink [14]
7. China - Great Wall [13]
8. Cree - Mekewap [19]
9. Dutch - Polder [10] (13-3) I really wish this was a more impactful UI as it is one of the neatest ideas and best looking n the game. Unfortunately I usually find that I can't place many and unlike some of the other UIs with hard placement requirements the impact is pretty small...
10. Egypt - Sphinx [19]
11. England - Royal Navy Dockyard [20]
13. Georgia - Tsikhe [5]
14. Germany - Hansa [25]
15. Greece - Acropolis [24]
17. Inca - Qhapaq Ñan [4]
18. Inca - Terrace Farm [24]
19. India - Stepwell [14]
20. Indonesia - Kampung [23]
22. Khmer - Prasat [16]
23. Kongo - Mbanza [19]
24. Korea - Seowon [22]
25. Macedon - Basilikoi Paides [23]
26. Mali - Suguba [23]
27. Maori - Marae [24] (23+1) My favourite feature in the Maori kit. Useful, distinct and changes how you play.
29. Mapuche - Chemamull [21]
30. Mongolia - Ordu [11]
33. Ottomans - Grand Bazaar [17]
34. Persia - Pairidaeza [23]
35. Phoenicia - Cothon [28]
36. Poland - Sukiennice [21]
37. Rome - Bath [21]
38. Russia - Lavra [28]
39. Scotland - Golf Course [12]
41. Spain - Mission [22]
42. Sumeria - Ziggurat [24]
43. Sweden - Open-Air Museum [22]
44. Sweden - Queen's Bibliotheque [10]
45. Zulu - Ikanda [16]

 

[Disgustipated]

2. Arabia - Madrasa [21]
3. Australia - Outback Station [22]
5. Brazil - Street Carnival / Copacabana [5]
6. Canada - Ice Hockey Rink [14]
7. China - Great Wall [13]
8. Cree - Mekewap [19]
9. Dutch - Polder [10]
10. Egypt - Sphinx [19]
11. England - Royal Navy Dockyard [20]
13. Georgia - Tsikhe [5]
14. Germany - Hansa [25]
15. Greece - Acropolis [24]
17. Inca - Qhapaq Ñan [1] = 4 - 3 Too map dependent, my maps this has never really helped me.
18. Inca - Terrace Farm [24]
19. India - Stepwell [14]
20. Indonesia - Kampung [23]
22. Khmer - Prasat [16]
23. Kongo - Mbanza [19]
24. Korea - Seowon [22]
25. Macedon - Basilikoi Paides [23]
26. Mali - Suguba [23]
27. Maori - Marae [24]
29. Mapuche - Chemamull [21]
30. Mongolia - Ordu [11]
33. Ottomans - Grand Bazaar [17]
34. Persia - Pairidaeza [23]
35. Phoenicia - Cothon [28]
36. Poland - Sukiennice [21]
37. Rome - Bath [22] = 21 + 1 people poo poo amenities but those ecstatic bonuses add up. And this enables you to go wide, and fits the theme of the leader and civ. Not to mention recent changes to adjacencies to these districts.
38. Russia - Lavra [28]
39. Scotland - Golf Course [12]
41. Spain - Mission [22]
42. Sumeria - Ziggurat [24]
43. Sweden - Open-Air Museum [22]
44. Sweden - Queen's Bibliotheque [10]
45. Zulu - Ikanda [16]

Please stop with the Trump talk (either for or against), I play this game and come here to get away from real world politics.

 

[Icicle]

2. Arabia - Madrasa [21]
3. Australia - Outback Station [22]
5. Brazil - Street Carnival / Copacabana [5]
6. Canada - Ice Hockey Rink [14]
7. China - Great Wall [13]
8. Cree - Mekewap [19]
9. Dutch - Polder [10]
10. Egypt - Sphinx [19]
11. England - Royal Navy Dockyard [20]
13. Georgia - Tsikhe [2] (5-3) Nowhere near as bad as it has been, but still, not above average.
14. Germany - Hansa [25]
15. Greece - Acropolis [24]
17. Inca - Qhapaq Ñan [1]
18. Inca - Terrace Farm [24]
19. India - Stepwell [14]
20. Indonesia - Kampung [23]
22. Khmer - Prasat [16]
23. Kongo - Mbanza [19]
24. Korea - Seowon [22]
25. Macedon - Basilikoi Paides [23]
26. Mali - Suguba [23]
27. Maori - Marae [24]
29. Mapuche - Chemamull [21]
30. Mongolia - Ordu [11]
33. Ottomans - Grand Bazaar [17]
34. Persia - Pairidaeza [24] (23+1) By itself this stops Persia from being a one trick pony and gives the civ something to do with all the conquered land it will have.
35. Phoenicia - Cothon [28]
36. Poland - Sukiennice [21]
37. Rome - Bath [22]
38. Russia - Lavra [28]
39. Scotland - Golf Course [12]
41. Spain - Mission [22]
42. Sumeria - Ziggurat [24]
43. Sweden - Open-Air Museum [22]
44. Sweden - Queen's Bibliotheque [10]
45. Zulu - Ikanda [16]

 

[BenitoChavez]

2. Arabia - Madrasa [21]
3. Australia - Outback Station [22]
5. Brazil - Street Carnival / Copacabana [5]
6. Canada - Ice Hockey Rink [14]
7. China - Great Wall [13]
8. Cree - Mekewap [19]
9. Dutch - Polder [10]
10. Egypt - Sphinx [16] = 19 - 3. It can be alright in the early game to nab a pantheon and delay building a monument but the base yields are so weak that I find I remove them for something else pretty soon.
11. England - Royal Navy Dockyard [20]
13. Georgia - Tsikhe [2]
14. Germany - Hansa [25]
15. Greece - Acropolis [24]
17. Inca - Qhapaq Ñan [1]
18. Inca - Terrace Farm [24]
19. India - Stepwell [14]
20. Indonesia - Kampung [24] = 23 + 1. It loses a bit of relative value due the recent coastal city buffs but it is still fantastic. Indonesia can settle cities on those 1 tile islands and it won't just be for the memes.
22. Khmer - Prasat [16]
23. Kongo - Mbanza [19]
24. Korea - Seowon [22]
25. Macedon - Basilikoi Paides [23]
26. Mali - Suguba [23]
27. Maori - Marae [24]
29. Mapuche - Chemamull [21]
30. Mongolia - Ordu [11]
33. Ottomans - Grand Bazaar [17]
34. Persia - Pairidaeza [24]
35. Phoenicia - Cothon [28]
36. Poland - Sukiennice [21]
37. Rome - Bath [22]
38. Russia - Lavra [28]
39. Scotland - Golf Course [12]
41. Spain - Mission [22]
42. Sumeria - Ziggurat [24]
43. Sweden - Open-Air Museum [22]
44. Sweden - Queen's Bibliotheque [10]
45. Zulu - Ikanda [16]

 

[Architect]

2. Arabia - Madrasa [21]
3. Australia - Outback Station [22]
5. Brazil - Street Carnival / Copacabana [5]
6. Canada - Ice Hockey Rink [14]
7. China - Great Wall [13]
8. Cree - Mekewap [19]
9. Dutch - Polder [10]
10. Egypt - Sphinx [16]
11. England - Royal Navy Dockyard [20]
13. Georgia - Tsikhe [2]
14. Germany - Hansa [25]
15. Greece - Acropolis [24]
17. Inca - Qhapaq Ñan [1]
18. Inca - Terrace Farm [24]
19. India - Stepwell [14]
20. Indonesia - Kampung [24]
22. Khmer - Prasat [16]
23. Kongo - Mbanza [19]
24. Korea - Seowon [22]
25. Macedon - Basilikoi Paides [23]
26. Mali - Suguba [23]
27. Maori - Marae [24]
29. Mapuche - Chemamull [21]
30. Mongolia - Ordu [11]
33. Ottomans - Grand Bazaar [17]
34. Persia - Pairidaeza [24]
35. Phoenicia - Cothon [28]
36. Poland - Sukiennice [21]
37. Rome - Bath [23] (22 + 1) I love IZ now so this is just a bonus to something I build in most cities anyway.
38. Russia - Lavra [28]
39. Scotland - Golf Course [12]
41. Spain - Mission [22]
42. Sumeria - Ziggurat [24]
43. Sweden - Open-Air Museum [22]
44. Sweden - Queen's Bibliotheque [7] (10 - 3) Limits options and isn't so powerful that the choice is obvious and if I don't take it you don't get 4 era score. Why can't this just be a new city center building or a palace expansion?
45. Zulu - Ikanda [16]

 

[Weraptor]

2. Arabia - Madrasa [21]
3. Australia - Outback Station [23] (22+1) A rather obligatory upvote.
5. Brazil - Street Carnival / Copacabana [5]
6. Canada - Ice Hockey Rink [14]
7. China - Great Wall [13]
8. Cree - Mekewap [19]
9. Dutch - Polder [10]
10. Egypt - Sphinx [16]
11. England - Royal Navy Dockyard [20]
13. Georgia - Tsikhe [2]
14. Germany - Hansa [25]
15. Greece - Acropolis [24]
17. Inca - Qhapaq Ñan [ELIMINATED] (1-3) It can be useful, but it's map-dependent and doesn't povide any yield.
18. Inca - Terrace Farm [24]
19. India - Stepwell [14]
20. Indonesia - Kampung [24]
22. Khmer - Prasat [16]
23. Kongo - Mbanza [19]
24. Korea - Seowon [22]
25. Macedon - Basilikoi Paides [23]
26. Mali - Suguba [23]
27. Maori - Marae [24]
29. Mapuche - Chemamull [21]
30. Mongolia - Ordu [11]
33. Ottomans - Grand Bazaar [17]
34. Persia - Pairidaeza [24]
35. Phoenicia - Cothon [28]
36. Poland - Sukiennice [21]
37. Rome - Bath [23]
38. Russia - Lavra [28]
39. Scotland - Golf Course [12]
41. Spain - Mission [22]
42. Sumeria - Ziggurat [24]
43. Sweden - Open-Air Museum [22]
44. Sweden - Queen's Bibliotheque [7]
45. Zulu - Ikanda [16]

 

[Krajzen]

2. Arabia - Madrasa [21]
3. Australia - Outback Station [23]
5. Brazil - Street Carnival / Copacabana [5]
6. Canada - Ice Hockey Rink [14]
7. China - Great Wall [13]
8. Cree - Mekewap [19]
9. Dutch - Polder [10]
10. Egypt - Sphinx [16]
11. England - Royal Navy Dockyard [20]
13. Georgia - Tsikhe [2-3=eliminated]
14. Germany - Hansa [25]
15. Greece - Acropolis [24]
18. Inca - Terrace Farm [24]
19. India - Stepwell [14]
20. Indonesia - Kampung [24]
22. Khmer - Prasat [16]
23. Kongo - Mbanza [19+1=20]
24. Korea - Seowon [22]
25. Macedon - Basilikoi Paides [23]
26. Mali - Suguba [23]
27. Maori - Marae [24]
29. Mapuche - Chemamull [21]
30. Mongolia - Ordu [11]
33. Ottomans - Grand Bazaar [17]
34. Persia - Pairidaeza [24]
35. Phoenicia - Cothon [28]
36. Poland - Sukiennice [21]
37. Rome - Bath [23]
38. Russia - Lavra [28]
39. Scotland - Golf Course [12]
41. Spain - Mission [22]
42. Sumeria - Ziggurat [24]
43. Sweden - Open-Air Museum [22]
44. Sweden - Queen's Bibliotheque [7]
45. Zulu - Ikanda [16]

Let me put down Tsikhe. It recently got two great buffs of Georgian walls buildiing bonus and that golden age +100% boost. It just really should replace medieval walls, not renaissance.
Mbanza - yes, it has the downside of needing forests/jungles, but it is available so much earlier and (in most cases) offers so much more that it doesn't really matter.

 

[Victoria]

2. Arabia - Madrasa [21]
3. Australia - Outback Station [23]
5. Brazil - Street Carnival / Copacabana [6] (5+1) - great value. It is a theater project that gives you engineer and merchants early as well as 1 amenity. Highly underrated. So a sympathy vote here
6. Canada - Ice Hockey Rink [14]
7. China - Great Wall [10] (13-3) - The fort part is rarely useful, an early chop is better than a fort with a builder. This leaves the gold and culture part which I have played a few times. While it is OK it requires a lot of tiles and charges which when you compare to a Chemamull, Sphinx, Ziggurat is poor. I would probably rate it on par with a scottish golf course overall because the wall does eat up your tiles and you have to manage it on your borders as well.
8. Cree - Mekewap [19]
9. Dutch - Polder [10]
10. Egypt - Sphinx [16]
11. England - Royal Navy Dockyard [20]
14. Germany - Hansa [25]
15. Greece - Acropolis [24]
18. Inca - Terrace Farm [24]
19. India - Stepwell [14]
20. Indonesia - Kampung [24]
22. Khmer - Prasat [16]
23. Kongo - Mbanza [20]
24. Korea - Seowon [22]
25. Macedon - Basilikoi Paides [23]
26. Mali - Suguba [23]
27. Maori - Marae [24]
29. Mapuche - Chemamull [21]
30. Mongolia - Ordu [11]
33. Ottomans - Grand Bazaar [17]
34. Persia - Pairidaeza [24]
35. Phoenicia - Cothon [28]
36. Poland - Sukiennice [21]
37. Rome - Bath [23]
38. Russia - Lavra [28]
39. Scotland - Golf Course [12]
41. Spain - Mission [22]
42. Sumeria - Ziggurat [25]
43. Sweden - Open-Air Museum [22]
44. Sweden - Queen's Bibliotheque [7]
45. Zulu - Ikanda [16]

 

[Kouvb593kdnuewnd]

2. Arabia - Madrasa [21]
3. Australia - Outback Station [23]
5. Brazil - Street Carnival / Copacabana [7] [6->7] I rather have this than Queen's Bibliotheque as it don't have any of the cost of

Queen's Bibliotheque and is also alot better than a normal Entertainment district, twice the amenties for half the cost not to mention the Project which works pretty well with Pedro's abilities. Two amenties can give a city +5 to +10% production and make a significant difference in growth.​

6. Canada - Ice Hockey Rink [14]
7. China - Great Wall [10]
8. Cree - Mekewap [19]
9. Dutch - Polder [10]
10. Egypt - Sphinx [16]
11. England - Royal Navy Dockyard [20]
14. Germany - Hansa [25]
15. Greece - Acropolis [24]
18. Inca - Terrace Farm [24]
19. India - Stepwell [14]
20. Indonesia - Kampung [24]
22. Khmer - Prasat [16]
23. Kongo - Mbanza [20]
24. Korea - Seowon [22]
25. Macedon - Basilikoi Paides [23]
26. Mali - Suguba [23]
27. Maori - Marae [24]
29. Mapuche - Chemamull [21]
30. Mongolia - Ordu [11]
33. Ottomans - Grand Bazaar [17]
34. Persia - Pairidaeza [24]
35. Phoenicia - Cothon [28]
36. Poland - Sukiennice [21]
37. Rome - Bath [23]
38. Russia - Lavra [28]
39. Scotland - Golf Course [12]
41. Spain - Mission [22]
42. Sumeria - Ziggurat [25]
43. Sweden - Open-Air Museum [22]
44. Sweden - Queen's Bibliotheque [4] [7 -> 4] This one is simply outstanding bad, it should be a unique ability that second level government Plaza buildings get this bonus or it should be buffed in some way. Its current form is just too much opportunity cost and it don't really make Sweden particular stronger. In the end it is just like a somewhat better art museum but at a large opportunity cost behind it.
45. Zulu - Ikanda [16]

 

[monstercat]

2. Arabia - Madrasa [21]
3. Australia - Outback Station [23]
5. Brazil - Street Carnival / Copacabana [7]
6. Canada - Ice Hockey Rink [14]
7. China - Great Wall [10]
8. Cree - Mekewap [19]
9. Dutch - Polder [10]
10. Egypt - Sphinx [16]
11. England - Royal Navy Dockyard [20]
14. Germany - Hansa [25]
15. Greece - Acropolis [24]
18. Inca - Terrace Farm [24]
19. India - Stepwell [11] (14 - 3) Basically a Farm improvement with a bit of Faith tacked on at the side.
20. Indonesia - Kampung [24]
22. Khmer - Prasat [16]
23. Kongo - Mbanza [20]
24. Korea - Seowon [22]
25. Macedon - Basilikoi Paides [23]
26. Mali - Suguba [23]
27. Maori - Marae [25] (24 + 1) Culture and Faith on almost everything.
29. Mapuche - Chemamull [21]
30. Mongolia - Ordu [11]
33. Ottomans - Grand Bazaar [17]
34. Persia - Pairidaeza [24]
35. Phoenicia - Cothon [28]
36. Poland - Sukiennice [21]
37. Rome - Bath [23]
38. Russia - Lavra [28]
39. Scotland - Golf Course [12]
41. Spain - Mission [22]
42. Sumeria - Ziggurat [25]
43. Sweden - Open-Air Museum [22]
44. Sweden - Queen's Bibliotheque [4]
45. Zulu - Ikanda [16]

 

[Atlas627]

2. Arabia - Madrasa [21]
3. Australia - Outback Station [23]
5. Brazil - Street Carnival / Copacabana [7]
6. Canada - Ice Hockey Rink [14]
7. China - Great Wall [10]
8. Cree - Mekewap [19]
9. Dutch - Polder [11] (10+1) Strong yields on a generally lackluster tile? Yes please. Also the sheer joy when the map generator gives you great spots for these is so worth it. (I agree that the improvement isn't strong enough for its restrictions, but I care more about uniqueness than strength, so long as it is not unusably bad. At least I almost always want to use the Polder when I get the chance)
10. Egypt - Sphinx [16]
11. England - Royal Navy Dockyard [20]
14. Germany - Hansa [25]
15. Greece - Acropolis [24]
18. Inca - Terrace Farm [24]
19. India - Stepwell [11]
20. Indonesia - Kampung [24]
22. Khmer - Prasat [16]
23. Kongo - Mbanza [20]
24. Korea - Seowon [19] (22-3) Boringly straightforward, and a boost to something I was already going to do anyway. At least it makes me put Campuses in new spots?
25. Macedon - Basilikoi Paides [23]
26. Mali - Suguba [23]
27. Maori - Marae [25]
29. Mapuche - Chemamull [21]
30. Mongolia - Ordu [11]
33. Ottomans - Grand Bazaar [17]
34. Persia - Pairidaeza [24]
35. Phoenicia - Cothon [28]
36. Poland - Sukiennice [21]
37. Rome - Bath [23]
38. Russia - Lavra [28]
39. Scotland - Golf Course [12]
41. Spain - Mission [22]
42. Sumeria - Ziggurat [25]
43. Sweden - Open-Air Museum [22]
44. Sweden - Queen's Bibliotheque [4]
45. Zulu - Ikanda [16]

 

[bengalryan9]

2. Arabia - Madrasa [21]
3. Australia - Outback Station [23]
5. Brazil - Street Carnival / Copacabana [7]
6. Canada - Ice Hockey Rink [14]
7. China - Great Wall [10]
8. Cree - Mekewap [19]
9. Dutch - Polder [11]
10. Egypt - Sphinx [16]
11. England - Royal Navy Dockyard [20]
14. Germany - Hansa [25]
15. Greece - Acropolis [24]
18. Inca - Terrace Farm [25] (24+1) These are really good and figuring out the best way to place them can be a lot of fun. Needs some help from the map generator, but with Inca's start bias you should be fine.
19. India - Stepwell [11]
20. Indonesia - Kampung [24]
22. Khmer - Prasat [16]
23. Kongo - Mbanza [20]
24. Korea - Seowon [19]
25. Macedon - Basilikoi Paides [23]
26. Mali - Suguba [23]
27. Maori - Marae [25]
29. Mapuche - Chemamull [21]
30. Mongolia - Ordu [8] (11-3) I agree that the nerfs to cavalry really hurt this. While it still probably has use early on in the game, once walls go up that movement loses a lot of it's shine. Still good for pillaging, but not enough to stick around on here.
33. Ottomans - Grand Bazaar [17]
34. Persia - Pairidaeza [24]
35. Phoenicia - Cothon [28]
36. Poland - Sukiennice [21]
37. Rome - Bath [23]
38. Russia - Lavra [28]
39. Scotland - Golf Course [12]
41. Spain - Mission [22]
42. Sumeria - Ziggurat [25]
43. Sweden - Open-Air Museum [22]
44. Sweden - Queen's Bibliotheque [4]
45. Zulu - Ikanda [16]

 

[lotrmith]

2. Arabia - Madrasa [21]
3. Australia - Outback Station [23]
5. Brazil - Street Carnival / Copacabana [7]
6. Canada - Ice Hockey Rink [14]
7. China - Great Wall [10]
8. Cree - Mekewap [16] 19 - 3
9. Dutch - Polder [12] 11 + 1 Polder porn beats non-existent Mekewap porn. When this error is corrected I'll happily vote for something else. P.S. It's just a game.
10. Egypt - Sphinx [16]
11. England - Royal Navy Dockyard [20]
14. Germany - Hansa [25]
15. Greece - Acropolis [24]
18. Inca - Terrace Farm [25]
19. India - Stepwell [11]
20. Indonesia - Kampung [24]
22. Khmer - Prasat [16]
23. Kongo - Mbanza [20]
24. Korea - Seowon [19]
25. Macedon - Basilikoi Paides [23]
26. Mali - Suguba [23]
27. Maori - Marae [25]
29. Mapuche - Chemamull [21]
30. Mongolia - Ordu [8]
33. Ottomans - Grand Bazaar [17]
34. Persia - Pairidaeza [24]
35. Phoenicia - Cothon [28]
36. Poland - Sukiennice [21]
37. Rome - Bath [23]
38. Russia - Lavra [28]
39. Scotland - Golf Course [12]
41. Spain - Mission [22]
42. Sumeria - Ziggurat [25]
43. Sweden - Open-Air Museum [22]
44. Sweden - Queen's Bibliotheque [4]
45. Zulu - Ikanda [16]

 

[The Highwayman]

2. Arabia - Madrasa [21]
3. Australia - Outback Station [23]
5. Brazil - Street Carnival / Copacabana [7]
6. Canada - Ice Hockey Rink [14]
7. China - Great Wall [10]
8. Cree - Mekewap [16]
9. Dutch - Polder [12]
10. Egypt - Sphinx [16]
11. England - Royal Navy Dockyard [20]
14. Germany - Hansa [25]
15. Greece - Acropolis [25] [24+1] Fly through the civic tree, do whatever you want. Envoys dominate city state control. Top tier.
18. Inca - Terrace Farm [25]
19. India - Stepwell [11]
20. Indonesia - Kampung [24]
22. Khmer - Prasat [16]
23. Kongo - Mbanza [20]
24. Korea - Seowon [19]
25. Macedon - Basilikoi Paides [23]
26. Mali - Suguba [23]
27. Maori - Marae [25]
29. Mapuche - Chemamull [21]
30. Mongolia - Ordu [8]
33. Ottomans - Grand Bazaar [17]
34. Persia - Pairidaeza [24]
35. Phoenicia - Cothon [28]
36. Poland - Sukiennice [21]
37. Rome - Bath [23]
38. Russia - Lavra [28]
39. Scotland - Golf Course [9] [12-3] Helps getting +3 cities sooner, which augments Scotland's only decent bonus. But still, any Civ can easily get to +3 in mid/late game, including Scotland without this. Has its uses, but weak overall.
41. Spain - Mission [22]
42. Sumeria - Ziggurat [25]
43. Sweden - Open-Air Museum [22]
44. Sweden - Queen's Bibliotheque [4]
45. Zulu - Ikanda [16]

 

[DogeEnricoDandolo]

2. Arabia - Madrasa [21]
3. Australia - Outback Station [23]
5. Brazil - Street Carnival / Copacabana [7]
6. Canada - Ice Hockey Rink [14]
7. China - Great Wall [10]
8. Cree - Mekewap [16]
9. Dutch - Polder [12]
10. Egypt - Sphinx [16]
11. England - Royal Navy Dockyard [20]
14. Germany - Hansa [25]
15. Greece - Acropolis [25]
18. Inca - Terrace Farm [25]
19. India - Stepwell [11]
20. Indonesia - Kampung [24]
22. Khmer - Prasat [17]=16+1 Not a strongest building for sure, but the entire Khmer civ mounts on this building as the victory vessel. I had a blast generating 650-700 Tourism per turn in Renaissance Era with this building.
23. Kongo - Mbanza [20]
24. Korea - Seowon [19]
25. Macedon - Basilikoi Paides [23]
26. Mali - Suguba [23]
27. Maori - Marae [25]
29. Mapuche - Chemamull [21]
30. Mongolia - Ordu [8]
33. Ottomans - Grand Bazaar [17]
34. Persia - Pairidaeza [24]
35. Phoenicia - Cothon [28]
36. Poland - Sukiennice [21]
37. Rome - Bath [23]
38. Russia - Lavra [28]
39. Scotland - Golf Course [6]=9-3 A paltry amount of yields, requiring a tile next to a city center (which is super valuable and limited) and an EC constructed (the weakest specialty district) to earn max yield and even that, still not worth it. Limiting it to 1 per city makes this thing so bad.
41. Spain - Mission [22]
42. Sumeria - Ziggurat [25]
43. Sweden - Open-Air Museum [22]
44. Sweden - Queen's Bibliotheque [4]
45. Zulu - Ikanda [16]

 

[Troy Bruckner]

Please stop with the Trump talk (either for or against), I play this game and come here to get away from real world politics.

What I wanted all along.

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2. Arabia - Madrasa [21]
3. Australia - Outback Station [23]
5. Brazil - Street Carnival / Copacabana [7]
6. Canada - Ice Hockey Rink [14]
7. China - Great Wall [10]
8. Cree - Mekewap [16]
9. Dutch - Polder [12]
10. Egypt - Sphinx [16]
11. England - Royal Navy Dockyard [20]
14. Germany - Hansa [25]
15. Greece - Acropolis [25]
18. Inca - Terrace Farm [25]
19. India - Stepwell [11]
20. Indonesia - Kampung [24]
22. Khmer [17]
23. Kongo - Mbanza [20]
24. Korea - Seowon [19]
25. Macedon - Basilikoi Paides [23]
26. Mali - Suguba [23]
27. Maori - Marae [25]
29. Mapuche - Chemamull [21]
30. Mongolia - Ordu [8]
33. Ottomans - Grand Bazaar [17]
34. Persia - Pairidaeza [24]
35. Phoenicia - Cothon [28]
36. Poland - Sukiennice [21]
37. Rome - Bath [23]
38. Russia - Lavra 29 [28] nothing else is close
39. Scotland - Golf Course 3 [6]-3 a protest vote if there ever was one
41. Spain - Mission [22]
42. Sumeria - Ziggurat [25]
43. Sweden - Open-Air Museum [22]
44. Sweden - Queen's Bibliotheque [4]
45. Zulu - Ikanda [16]

 

[Datgingah]

2. Arabia - Madrasa [22] (21+1) University that gives extra faith and can be obtained sooner is pretty nice. A vote if just for novelty.
3. Australia - Outback Station [23]
5. Brazil - Street Carnival / Copacabana [7]
6. Canada - Ice Hockey Rink [14]
7. China - Great Wall [10]
8. Cree - Mekewap [16]
9. Dutch - Polder [12]
10. Egypt - Sphinx [16]
11. England - Royal Navy Dockyard [20]
14. Germany - Hansa [25]
15. Greece - Acropolis [25]
18. Inca - Terrace Farm [22] (25-3) Its nice early game but stops being useful pretty quick. So while not terrible I just think its score shouldn't be this high, as its not in the same league as the lavra, hansa, acropolis, kampung, or marae. Cothon is also too high imo, but I find it better then this.
19. India - Stepwell [11]
20. Indonesia - Kampung [24]
22. Khmer - Prasat [17]
23. Kongo - Mbanza [20]
24. Korea - Seowon [19]
25. Macedon - Basilikoi Paides [23]
26. Mali - Suguba [23]
27. Maori - Marae [25]
29. Mapuche - Chemamull [21]
30. Mongolia - Ordu [8]
33. Ottomans - Grand Bazaar [17]
34. Persia - Pairidaeza [24]
35. Phoenicia - Cothon [28]
36. Poland - Sukiennice [21]
37. Rome - Bath [23]
38. Russia - Lavra [29]
39. Scotland - Golf Course [3]
41. Spain - Mission [22]
42. Sumeria - Ziggurat [25]
43. Sweden - Open-Air Museum [22]
44. Sweden - Queen's Bibliotheque [4]
45. Zulu - Ikanda [16]