General Turn Discussion

[Memphus]

Kaz tried that route, and Cav (as well as MS IIRC) gifted gold to Kaz to upgrade units. Sufficed to say it didn't work.

Building on this, it worked out perfectly for us.

Cav Gave Kaz for the Axe==>Mace Plan.

Kaz screwed up attacking us.

Thus

Cav Got Mad and vowed not to give kaz anymore help
Kaz got mad since Cav isn't supporting them.

Realistically we couldn't have asked for a better result...

 

[Krill]

3 Things happened (all of which were expected)

Cav recieved Philo and Edu
Cav got a GE from their cap
Cav completed the MoM in thier cap (which I alluded to earlier).

 

[Memphus]

So KAz still gifted the techs? Itnerestign way to start an alliance...

IMO We dont let kaz dropthat city until they attack cav. They also get no techs from us until Cav loses 1 city.

 

[IamJohn]

They may feel like the techs are already promised, that they had on other choice?

Or it may be just them saying no to us. *shrug*

 

[Memphus]

MS also got a GS at the end of the turn.

That is now 4 Great people in 1 turn

 

[Ronnie1]

I have been gone for a few days....what did I miss?

Kaz asked for alliance,...and then passed on 2 high level techs to Cav? What the hell?

 

[sooooo]

Well, Kaz proposed and alliance on the condition that we gave them cities. We said no, so I presume they gave up on the alliance and gave the techs to cav.

 

[Ronnie1]

Well I had seen that, and also the chat about them dropping a city on the other side of TKY.

I want to know what happened between them dropping a city over there....and then giving up the techs anyway!!!!!

 

[IamJohn]

Cav pops a golden age! Fun times.

 

[Krill]

Good news/Bad news time. We got Lib, took Nationalism. We got a GS from IS (which is really meh, if we had lucked out on a GE that could have been better). We can start Taj in FC next turn, it should complete eot t147, with a revolt to Mercantilism (which is pretty much a must). Machinery in 1 next turn with a free revolt to FR, need Optics in 1 turn after to have a good shot at getting circumnavigation, because Kaz got Compass this turn. The academy should be formed on t130.

Still, I wouldn't have expected to be here, CS to Lib in 11 turns...

 

[Ronnie1]

So where EXACTLY is the bad news???????

 

[Krill]

I wanted the GE for Taj, for a free revolt to Merc, and to use OO to get the GS for the academy. And we need to be careful about building Taj, because it is feasible for Cav to beat us to it.

 

[Ronnie1]

How long does our cease fire with Kaz last?

They are building up troops on our border of course. We need to be better prepared if they attack with the support of Cav this time.

But I LOVE the way our civ looks at this point, we are really solid! We need more workers, which we are building.

Troops! ! ! !....we are spread pretty thin, IF we had to defend 2 fronts, it would be really challenging. I think we need to tech towards Astro to help negate the effect of Carracks, and then be 1st to Airships. As Memphus and GW learned in the PBEM, they can be very effective in their window pre-flight.

 

[Mojoqmeyvam]

So we didn't switch to Nationhood? When are we planning on doing that, or are we staying in Bureaucracy?

 

[Krill]

We can't switch until next turn. TBH we ought to revolt to Merc asap, so we have a spare civic swap sometime in the next 8 turns. I'm tempted to say revolt to FR next turn, and revolt to Nationhood and Merc once we get Banking, because we need the beakers from Bureacracy to get Machinery and Optics asap.

 

[Ronnie1]

Since we missed out MoM...what are our Golden Age plans? How long until we complete Taj? Would that be a good time to switch to Nation?

 

[IamJohn]

To what degree will Cav's golden age help them if they attempt to build Taj do you think?

 

[Ronnie1]

They need to get Nationalism first! So it shouldn't help much, some on the research, a little on the build, would be my guess.

 

[IamJohn]

How exactly do we think war should go? It seems like we're fairly interested in going in at Kaz first, which makes sense, but if we were cav what do you think would be the response? Do you think Cav is going to try to take down Saturn, and then attempt to settle their lands?



A larger scale area map for those watching at home, since I don't think we've had one in awhile.

 

[mostly-harmless]

Since we see all of Cavs core cities we can track their Taj progress turn by turn.

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