Give corporations more realistic names

[Love]

We have a lot of trademarked art in many mods. Ok?

 

[Sephlock]

Yeah, but these are CORPORATIONS we're talking about- the ultimate evil. You just know that at least one of them would be petty enough to want your head.

 

[Love]

In FFH they have Michel Jackson As art for a building called freak show. They havent been sacked...

 

[jason77024]

In FFH they have Michel Jackson As art for a building called freak show. They havent been sacked...

1. That is libel, not trademark infringement.

2. It's not libel either.

 

[JFLNYC]

De minimis non curat lex.

 

[BriGuy20]

Actually, for Sushi, I think you'd have to add Rev. Moon's organization since he more or less has a vertical monopoly on Sushi in the U.S.

Also, can't you rename stuff/give it custom names by clicking on it?

 

[RedRalph]

Sid's sushi -> Mcdonalds
Cereal Mills -> Nestle
Aluminum Co -> British Steel
Creative Constructions -> Halliburton
Civilized Jewelers -> DeBeers
Mining Co -> BHP Billington
Std Ethanol -> Gazprom

the real life equivalents I think

 

[Horace]

Yeh I like those siggestions. Would probably swap Gazprom to ExxonMobil and British Steel to Arcelor Mittal or Tata Steel

 

[RedRalph]

Gazproms the biggest energy company in the world, isnt it?

 

[johnny5000]

Halliburton for all of them.

In that case, can we mod it so it gives nuclear tech to enemies, while draining all from the economy?

 

[Antilogic]

Why Exxon-Mobil? They aren't doing anything with ethanol research...try BP.

Initially, I was hoping only for "historic" corporations, like Carnegie Steel, Rockefeller, Rothschilds' or Fuggers' banking, etc. But I've grown fond of the invented corporations. Whereas there are thousands of corporations in the world, there are relatively few big religions. Thus, you can pick the real names with religions and not mess up too badly. But with corporations...unless the world becomes dominated by 7 monopolies, I'd keep the fantasy corporations.

 

[blitzkrieg1980]

And let's hope that never happens, although if current unregulated Smith-style capitalism continues to go unchecked, that's a good possibility in the distant future.

 

[bob_x]

Under the trademark fair use doctrine, I don't see how Firaxis would be liable for using real corporate names within an entertainment work.

See the following blog post:

http://volokh.com/2003_10_12_volokh_archive.html#106639957239049928

 

[jason77024]

Under the trademark fair use doctrine, I don't see how Firaxis would be liable for using real corporate names within an entertainment work.

See the following blog post:

http://volokh.com/2003_10_12_volokh_archive.html#106639957239049928

Bob, thanks for the post. Volokh's site is a good one. Poking around a bit more, it seems the two companies settled in March of the following year, but no terms were released.

If you have Disney's legal dept, you can at least fight Caterpillar to a draw. Firaxis... not so much.

 

[jason77024]

Why Exxon-Mobil? They aren't doing anything with ethanol research...try BP.

Well, that list seems to value company size over finding the closest fit.

I think it's a real good bet Gazprom doesn't do much of anything with ethanol. Of course Saudi Aramco is bigger, not that it is an ethanol producer either.

Nestle sells breakfast cereal through a JV with General Mills, which makes the cereals in the first place. (Better yet, go with Kellogg, the company that actually invented Corn Flakes.)

Halliburton is probably just some lefty obsession thing. Its construction subsidiary -was- KBR, but that is now an independent company.

It's Bechtel that has been involved with everything from the Chunnel to nuke plants to the San Francisco Bay Bridge to the new HK airport to Hoover Dam (q.v. the Civilopedia entry for Creative Constructions, iirc). I think someone else mentioned Samsung, which could also work.

DeBeers is not a good fit either. Its retail sales are a very recent add-on. Since CC requires a Great Artist, a jewelry company rather than a mining company is a better match. Tiffany is that company, with the added bonus that they were the jeweller to the Gilded Age NYC industrial barons you mention.

And why anyone would pick a steel company instead of any aluminum company is beyond me.

But given all the mergers, etc. that will take place, going with generics makes sense anyway. Just think if Firaxis had picked Alcan: "Whoops, Rio Tinto is buying Alcan, so we have to issue another patch."

 

[Silence101]

These corporations that you're mentioning are in the private sector. It seems to me that corporations in BTS or supposed to represent corporations owned by the public sector, as it's the government that's building them - companies like Airbus, etc...

 

[Donny]

Sid's sushi -> Mcdonalds
Cereal Mills -> Nestle
Aluminum Co -> British Steel
Creative Constructions -> Halliburton
Civilized Jewelers -> DeBeers
Mining Co -> BHP Billington
Std Ethanol -> Gazprom

the real life equivalents I think

Alot better than the made up names in the game!

I don't see why there should be a copyright problem. If anything, Firaxis could get the companies to pay for the advertisement.

 

[Scaramanga]

I agree with the OP's point since there're real religions in the game but corporations are for some reason fake (even though they basically add the same kind of gameplay).

 

[Peng Qi]

I want to rename the seven corporations after real companies. Anyone have any suggestions for appropriate names?

Civilized Jewelers should definitely be DeBeers.

 

[jason77024]

These corporations that you're mentioning are in the private sector. It seems to me that corporations in BTS or supposed to represent corporations owned by the public sector, as it's the government that's building them - companies like Airbus, etc...

Well if you put it that way, every player in the game runs a dictatorship - or an oligarchy if a succession game! Select universal suffrage or representation all you like - it's still a one-man show.