gormdragan
King
i agree. Good set of turns, we are on course 
GK1- The Wrath of Khan!!
- Thread starter Gengis Khan
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Thanks for the counseling session. The boost to my self-esteem was just what I needed.
Will aim to strip that armor off Joanie (for you, Sir Bugsy
) along with all her gold, all her techs, Paris and anything else I can get.
Play and post tonight.
Will aim to strip that armor off Joanie (for you, Sir Bugsy
) along with all her gold, all her techs, Paris and anything else I can get.Play and post tonight.
Preturn
Sell maps to everybody for extra cash
IBT Hammie finishes HG, starts GW
1) 110AD
Seige of Lyon: Cats destroy temple
Sw fortifies awaiting reinforcement
W's at Berlin move off to IP for barb hunt
Workers mine grass at DB, 2 move to jungle SE of DB
CV workers move to jungle N of CV for chop
Fortify TFE at IP. Dispatch w west for scout mission.
Sw at gates of Paris moves toward iron mtn
IBT India fininshes GW, starts Colussus
2) 130AD
Seige of Lyons: Cats take hp off sp, reveal reg sw
Vet sw attacks, kills reg sw
vet sw(4/4) attacks and dies to 2/3 sp- sp promotes
Vet sw(3/4) dies to 2/4 sp
Sw takes high ground with iron
Wmove toward Lyons, chop jungle S of DB
War moves W from IP
12g in Treasury 10gpt
Move lux to 20 Science to 10
Put scientist and clown in Berlin back to work
Move lux to 30 still at 2gpt
IBT Berlin sw=>sw
3) 150AD
Seige of Lyon: Cats take 2hp of sp. Sw fortified waiting for reinforcement
Pillage iron mtn at PAris
Dispatch sws' at DB to TFF
IBT Whore of Babylon sw approaches Paris from east. Barb horse approaches IP from NW.
CV Rax=>sw
Leipzig Cat=>cat
Bangalore completes GL
Hammie starts Colussus
4) 170AD
Siege of Lyon Cats take 1hp off spear
Eite sw fortifies iron mtn
Warriors at IP fortify in face of barb horse
IBT Fr sw joins defense of Lyons. Barb moves toward IP. French start SunT in Paris
5) 190AD
Seige of Lyons: Cats kill citizen and take 1 hp off sp
Scouting war finds barb camp west of IP
Sp at Berlin joins cat for seige
War at IP takes out barb
IBT Fr sw at Lton attacks seige train, kills sw, redlines
Berlin sw=>sw
Russian war pillages barb camp
Indians start SunT
6 210AD
Warriors at IP move NW
Seige of Lyon: sw joins seige camp. Cat bombard fails
DB hires scientist
Sci to 0 Lux to 20 for +4 gpt
Elite sw on mtn moves to gates of Lyons
IBT Barb horseman kills west warrior
DB Lib=>CH
7) 230AD
Seige of Lyons: Cats take 2hp off Fr sp. Vet sw attacks, kills spear, redlines
IBT Fr reg sw attacks elite sw at gates of Lyons, sw dies, Fr sw promotes undamaged
8) 250AD
Seige of Lyons: Cats fail. Sp and cat join camp
Redlined sw fortified.
IBT French sue for peace. Whore of Babylon will give 53g, 20gpt, WM/TM, Monarchy and Fuedalism. I'll take it. She agrees and winks at me.
Barb horse approaches wars NW of IP
Berlin Sw=>temple due in 5. Leipzig cat=>cat
9) 260AD
Cat to Berlin for TFF. Withdraw troops from Lyons. Workers at CV move to Riverside Jungle Park for chop. War NW of IP attacks barb horse and dies.
IBT Hammie starts SunT. Barbs come out of W heading for NW war.
10) Fortify TFF outside French border. Start workers with TFF to Berlin for forest chop. Switch Berlin to SunT. Set Berlin to max shields at expense of growth. SunT due in 42
Trade WM's to everybody for 55g net
SitRep
State
Cathy annoyed, has 14 g, no tech s to trade, no extra lux or resources, needs dyes. Gandhi annoyed, has 41g, no techs to trade, has horses and wines, needs dyes and ivory. Liz furious, has nothing, still in Ancient Age. Hammie annoyed, 12g, no tech to trade, no extra lux or res, needs dyes and ivory. Xerxes furious, has no gold, still in Ancient Age, only 3 cities. Joanie furious, has 6 g, no lux or res, needs iron, dyes, incense, ivory.
Shaka furious, has 12g, has no Middle Age techs yet, has furs and horses, needs dyes, ivories.
Defense
4 W
3 A
4 Sp
6 Sw
5 Cat
TFE 3 A, 1 Sp @ DB
TFF 1 Sp, 5 Sw, 4 cat, 1 cat in transit
MP 1 Sp at CV, 3 wars on lookout duty around DB, 1 Sp in DB
Commerce
181g, 26gpt
Science 0 Lux 10
Scientist in DB
Theology due in 28
No lux or resource trades available yet
CH building at DB
SunT at Berlin. Workers available from TFF camp for thirty shield forest chop
Workers busy chopping jungle at DB and CV
Mixed results, methinks. Tech position is good relative to continental neighbors and superior to others. Treasury in good shape and lots of trading opportunities coming up. Berlin well positioned to nail SunT if we want to risk leaving Liz around for another forty turns or so. No builds irreversible at this point. Pop not growing real fast anywhere, however.
Illuminators now in Luddite phase. Still no screenshots available.
Humbly submitted
Bede
Sell maps to everybody for extra cash
IBT Hammie finishes HG, starts GW
1) 110AD
Seige of Lyon: Cats destroy temple
Sw fortifies awaiting reinforcement
W's at Berlin move off to IP for barb hunt
Workers mine grass at DB, 2 move to jungle SE of DB
CV workers move to jungle N of CV for chop
Fortify TFE at IP. Dispatch w west for scout mission.
Sw at gates of Paris moves toward iron mtn
IBT India fininshes GW, starts Colussus
2) 130AD
Seige of Lyons: Cats take hp off sp, reveal reg sw
Vet sw attacks, kills reg sw
vet sw(4/4) attacks and dies to 2/3 sp- sp promotes
Vet sw(3/4) dies to 2/4 sp
Sw takes high ground with iron
Wmove toward Lyons, chop jungle S of DB
War moves W from IP
12g in Treasury 10gpt
Move lux to 20 Science to 10
Put scientist and clown in Berlin back to work
Move lux to 30 still at 2gpt
IBT Berlin sw=>sw
3) 150AD
Seige of Lyon: Cats take 2hp of sp. Sw fortified waiting for reinforcement
Pillage iron mtn at PAris
Dispatch sws' at DB to TFF
IBT Whore of Babylon sw approaches Paris from east. Barb horse approaches IP from NW.
CV Rax=>sw
Leipzig Cat=>cat
Bangalore completes GL
Hammie starts Colussus
4) 170AD
Siege of Lyon Cats take 1hp off spear
Eite sw fortifies iron mtn
Warriors at IP fortify in face of barb horse
IBT Fr sw joins defense of Lyons. Barb moves toward IP. French start SunT in Paris
5) 190AD
Seige of Lyons: Cats kill citizen and take 1 hp off sp
Scouting war finds barb camp west of IP
Sp at Berlin joins cat for seige
War at IP takes out barb
IBT Fr sw at Lton attacks seige train, kills sw, redlines
Berlin sw=>sw
Russian war pillages barb camp
Indians start SunT
6 210AD
Warriors at IP move NW
Seige of Lyon: sw joins seige camp. Cat bombard fails
DB hires scientist
Sci to 0 Lux to 20 for +4 gpt
Elite sw on mtn moves to gates of Lyons
IBT Barb horseman kills west warrior
DB Lib=>CH
7) 230AD
Seige of Lyons: Cats take 2hp off Fr sp. Vet sw attacks, kills spear, redlines
IBT Fr reg sw attacks elite sw at gates of Lyons, sw dies, Fr sw promotes undamaged
8) 250AD
Seige of Lyons: Cats fail. Sp and cat join camp
Redlined sw fortified.
IBT French sue for peace. Whore of Babylon will give 53g, 20gpt, WM/TM, Monarchy and Fuedalism. I'll take it. She agrees and winks at me.
Barb horse approaches wars NW of IP
Berlin Sw=>temple due in 5. Leipzig cat=>cat
9) 260AD
Cat to Berlin for TFF. Withdraw troops from Lyons. Workers at CV move to Riverside Jungle Park for chop. War NW of IP attacks barb horse and dies.
IBT Hammie starts SunT. Barbs come out of W heading for NW war.
10) Fortify TFF outside French border. Start workers with TFF to Berlin for forest chop. Switch Berlin to SunT. Set Berlin to max shields at expense of growth. SunT due in 42
Trade WM's to everybody for 55g net
SitRep
State
Cathy annoyed, has 14 g, no tech s to trade, no extra lux or resources, needs dyes. Gandhi annoyed, has 41g, no techs to trade, has horses and wines, needs dyes and ivory. Liz furious, has nothing, still in Ancient Age. Hammie annoyed, 12g, no tech to trade, no extra lux or res, needs dyes and ivory. Xerxes furious, has no gold, still in Ancient Age, only 3 cities. Joanie furious, has 6 g, no lux or res, needs iron, dyes, incense, ivory.
Shaka furious, has 12g, has no Middle Age techs yet, has furs and horses, needs dyes, ivories.
Defense
4 W
3 A
4 Sp
6 Sw
5 Cat
TFE 3 A, 1 Sp @ DB
TFF 1 Sp, 5 Sw, 4 cat, 1 cat in transit
MP 1 Sp at CV, 3 wars on lookout duty around DB, 1 Sp in DB
Commerce
181g, 26gpt
Science 0 Lux 10
Scientist in DB
Theology due in 28
No lux or resource trades available yet
CH building at DB
SunT at Berlin. Workers available from TFF camp for thirty shield forest chop
Workers busy chopping jungle at DB and CV
Mixed results, methinks. Tech position is good relative to continental neighbors and superior to others. Treasury in good shape and lots of trading opportunities coming up. Berlin well positioned to nail SunT if we want to risk leaving Liz around for another forty turns or so. No builds irreversible at this point. Pop not growing real fast anywhere, however.
Illuminators now in Luddite phase. Still no screenshots available.
Humbly submitted
Bede
Stapel
FIAT 850 coupé
Bede!In short: still no leader
. The fun of playing a militaristics civ becomes a bit less this way.
Gengis Khan
Deity
Gengis Khan- drinking beer on the bench
Our Resident Flyboy
An Irish Monk- played
A past & future HOFer- UP!
A man inlove with his car- On deck.
[edit]- Also, I'm not to concerned about the no leader thing yet, it's still early & we havn't really had that many elite battles. Give us about 100 more years of war & if we don't have a leader by then
.
Our Resident Flyboy
An Irish Monk- played
A past & future HOFer- UP!
A man inlove with his car- On deck.
[edit]- Also, I'm not to concerned about the no leader thing yet, it's still early & we havn't really had that many elite battles. Give us about 100 more years of war & if we don't have a leader by then
.
Sir Bugsy
Civ.D.
Bede - remember your vows!
Gengis is drinking beer on the beach, and I'm sitting in a snow storm.
Gengis is drinking beer on the beach, and I'm sitting in a snow storm.
Gengis Khan
Deity
I will be away for Thanksgiving until Sunday morning. While I don't think I'll come up, please skip me if I do.
sorry for the inconvienence!
sorry for the inconvienence!
gormdragan
King
Got it will play tomorrow.
gormdragan
King
Preturn:
Berlin is building Sun Tzu??? Why? This wonder is next to useless to us.
Swap to market.
Dye is building Courthouse???? This is a 5CC corruption is not an issue. Moreover we are going to sack leipzig soon so corruption will disappear. We were very wasteful in the tile working of Dye.
Swap to market.
MM Coast to grow faster.
AH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Why work Leipzig tiles!!!!! Why let it grow!!!!! This city is supposed to be abandoned soon.
Leipzig swap to worker.
We do not need more troops for now. Ivory and Coast swap to market.
We have warriors guarding a road???? redeploy to garrison Leipzig.
swap scientist to Berlin.
What!!!!! We swore peace with French for 18 turns!!!!! This is really bad, we need to take Paris to complete our RCP and our horse resource!!!!! I think we have lost sight of our priorities. In 18 turns time, it will be more difficult to take out the French. Now we are in big trouble. We should only accept peace after we have taken Paris.
There is very little I can do now, other than city improvements - press enter.
280:
Sell our WM, no new techs available.
290:
St Petersburg makes Colossus.
Wonder casacades.
Looks like we will keep Leipzig for a while, makes worker, starts rax (in 5 turns for vet troops).
Our WM is worthless.
300:
310:
320:
French mobilising troops towards Berlin, I pulled our SOD back within 1 turn movement. If we are really lucky, they will attack us. btw, French iron is connected .
330:
340:
This is really bad, Russian settled adjacent to our iron resource, it will be in danger of being asimilated. Next player watch out...we may need to strike Russians soon.
Our theology bubble just busted, Russians have it. The moment we get theology from trading or research do a 40turn gambit on printing press, I did not switch to chivalry or engineering as I didn't feel that we have a shot, next player can veto
350:
Fired scientist at Berlin, hired one in Leipzig.
Berlin is now a 2turn swordsman factory, please MM.
Summary
(1) I have not traded the last turn.
(2) We have only 5 cities so please MM.
(3) We need to re-think our objectives + we now have russian threat. Luckily, Grozny is a crappy spot, she is unlikely to expand her borders for at least 20 more turns.
(4) I played 8 turns to right the clock. we ended up at 270AD at the start of my turn.
(5) Sorry about the heavy hand
(6) Happy Thanksgiving.
The Save
Berlin is building Sun Tzu??? Why? This wonder is next to useless to us.
Swap to market.
Dye is building Courthouse???? This is a 5CC corruption is not an issue. Moreover we are going to sack leipzig soon so corruption will disappear. We were very wasteful in the tile working of Dye.
Swap to market.
MM Coast to grow faster.
AH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Why work Leipzig tiles!!!!! Why let it grow!!!!! This city is supposed to be abandoned soon.
Leipzig swap to worker.
We do not need more troops for now. Ivory and Coast swap to market.
We have warriors guarding a road???? redeploy to garrison Leipzig.
swap scientist to Berlin.
What!!!!! We swore peace with French for 18 turns!!!!! This is really bad, we need to take Paris to complete our RCP and our horse resource!!!!! I think we have lost sight of our priorities. In 18 turns time, it will be more difficult to take out the French. Now we are in big trouble. We should only accept peace after we have taken Paris.There is very little I can do now, other than city improvements - press enter.
280:
Sell our WM, no new techs available.
290:
St Petersburg makes Colossus.
Wonder casacades.
Looks like we will keep Leipzig for a while, makes worker, starts rax (in 5 turns for vet troops).
Our WM is worthless.
300:
310:
320:
French mobilising troops towards Berlin, I pulled our SOD back within 1 turn movement. If we are really lucky, they will attack us. btw, French iron is connected .
330:
340:
This is really bad, Russian settled adjacent to our iron resource, it will be in danger of being asimilated. Next player watch out...we may need to strike Russians soon.
Our theology bubble just busted, Russians have it. The moment we get theology from trading or research do a 40turn gambit on printing press, I did not switch to chivalry or engineering as I didn't feel that we have a shot, next player can veto
350:
Fired scientist at Berlin, hired one in Leipzig.
Berlin is now a 2turn swordsman factory, please MM.
Summary
(1) I have not traded the last turn.
(2) We have only 5 cities so please MM.
(3) We need to re-think our objectives + we now have russian threat. Luckily, Grozny is a crappy spot, she is unlikely to expand her borders for at least 20 more turns.
(4) I played 8 turns to right the clock. we ended up at 270AD at the start of my turn.
(5) Sorry about the heavy hand
(6) Happy Thanksgiving.
The Save
Stapel
FIAT 850 coupé
got it
Stapel
FIAT 850 coupé
I agree with most Gorm.
Why is science at 10% when we have a a scientist in Leipzig ?
What I will (try to) do.
-Buy theology and go for printing press
-Kick Grozny out!
-Make pease again asap with the Russians
-Strenghten Task Force French Fries
Do I have a go? I plan to move our troops to the Russian front immediately!
Why is science at 10% when we have a a scientist in Leipzig
?What I will (try to) do.
-Buy theology and go for printing press
-Kick Grozny out!
-Make pease again asap with the Russians
-Strenghten Task Force French Fries
Do I have a go? I plan to move our troops to the Russian front immediately!
Gengis Khan
Deity
I'm back & will be eating turkey for the next month!
Any progress Stapel?
Any progress Stapel?
Stapel
FIAT 850 coupé
Yes. Declared war to Russia: All fine, no leader.
I can buy theology for 30 gpt...... Probably get chivalry for theo.
What do we think about that?
I can buy theology for 30 gpt...... Probably get chivalry for theo.
What do we think about that?
Gengis Khan
Deity
Need more details.
Who has Theo/monopoly? Whats our income? How many ppl have Chiv? What else do they have?
Who has Theo/monopoly? Whats our income? How many ppl have Chiv? What else do they have?
Stapel
FIAT 850 coupé
India has theo. Babs have chivalry. We have 40 gpt. Theo costs 30 gpt
We can immeditely start on press.
We can immeditely start on press.
Gengis Khan
Deity
Monopoly price I would assume?
Tough call. It would let us start a 40 turn gambit, and it's not like we'll be going to war with the Indians any time soon. However 600 gold is an awful lot to pay for Theology, even if we can get another tech for it. Especially since we only have 5 cities & have to make every penny count.
I'd say don't trade until someone busts up their monopoly & lowers the price, but I'm intested in what everyone else thinks. ????
Tough call. It would let us start a 40 turn gambit, and it's not like we'll be going to war with the Indians any time soon. However 600 gold is an awful lot to pay for Theology, even if we can get another tech for it. Especially since we only have 5 cities & have to make every penny count.
I'd say don't trade until someone busts up their monopoly & lowers the price, but I'm intested in what everyone else thinks. ????
gormdragan
King
I would go ahead and trade for the 2 techs. The reasons are:
(1) with 5CC, we need to depend on trade to stay in tech parity.
(2) getting chivalry+theology for 600g sound cheap to me, not to mention we can try to trade around the world to squeeze some $$$ back. We may be able to get some $$$ back from the indians when we give them chivalry.
(3) gpt trades are good for relations and reputation. We need both.
(4) The most important reason, as pointed out by Stapel, theology opens the door to printing press, which is excellent for 40-turn gambits. Staying in tech parity allows us to locate profitable tech trades when they are immediately discovered. Being behind in techs will remove us from being able to get a tech at 2nd or 3rd and hence loses tradability.
I would trade. My 2 cents.
Check the cost of Chivalry and Theolggy (see what AI wants for either and trade for the more expensive one). It would be benefital if we can get both.
(1) with 5CC, we need to depend on trade to stay in tech parity.
(2) getting chivalry+theology for 600g sound cheap to me, not to mention we can try to trade around the world to squeeze some $$$ back. We may be able to get some $$$ back from the indians when we give them chivalry.
(3) gpt trades are good for relations and reputation. We need both.
(4) The most important reason, as pointed out by Stapel, theology opens the door to printing press, which is excellent for 40-turn gambits. Staying in tech parity allows us to locate profitable tech trades when they are immediately discovered. Being behind in techs will remove us from being able to get a tech at 2nd or 3rd and hence loses tradability.
I would trade. My 2 cents.
Check the cost of Chivalry and Theolggy (see what AI wants for either and trade for the more expensive one). It would be benefital if we can get both.
Sir Bugsy
Civ.D.
The trade sounds good Stapel
Stapel
FIAT 850 coupé
Pre Turn 350 AD: Science to 0%, Move troops towards Russia; Enter
Jeanne dArc builds an embassy in Berlin. Ivory city mm-ed to more commerce output.
Turn 1; 360 AD; troops movement; no trading possible. Russia has theo, but wont sell it.
Turn 2; 370 AD; troops movement; India and Russia have both chivalry and theology. Babs have chivalry. Buy Theo for 32 gpt + 7 gold from India. Chivalry also available. Get it from the babs + WM (yippee!).
Turn 3; 380 AD; declare war on Russians
Turn 4; 390 AD; We enter Russian territory near Grozny. No further trading possible.
Turn 5; 400 AD; No more Grozny . One swordsman promotes to elite when attacking a wandering archer.
Turn 6; 410 AD; French and Indian have engineering. They didnt have it last turn.
IT: French forces enter our territory. Quest-ce que Jeanne pense?
Turn 7; 420 AD; No more Riga. We loose one regular sword, we have two elite vics, no leader. The French back off.
IT: Persians want Monrachy. I refuse of course. They declare war! Our people are happy! Another sword promote during a Russina counter attack.
Turn 8; 430 AD; lux to 0% . We kill a Russian archer. MM-ed Dyeburg: growth in 1, market in 1, more commerce. MM-ed Ivory City: market in 1.
Turn 9; 440 AD;
Turn 10; 450 AD; Wounded troops fortify in Dyeburg.
Next please! N.B. There is one worker and one elite sword yet to move!
da save
Jeanne dArc builds an embassy in Berlin. Ivory city mm-ed to more commerce output.
Turn 1; 360 AD; troops movement; no trading possible. Russia has theo, but wont sell it.
Turn 2; 370 AD; troops movement; India and Russia have both chivalry and theology. Babs have chivalry. Buy Theo for 32 gpt + 7 gold from India. Chivalry also available. Get it from the babs + WM (yippee!).
Turn 3; 380 AD; declare war on Russians
Turn 4; 390 AD; We enter Russian territory near Grozny. No further trading possible.
Turn 5; 400 AD; No more Grozny
. One swordsman promotes to elite when attacking a wandering archer.Turn 6; 410 AD; French and Indian have engineering. They didnt have it last turn.
IT: French forces enter our territory. Quest-ce que Jeanne pense?
Turn 7; 420 AD; No more Riga. We loose one regular sword, we have two elite vics, no leader. The French back off.
IT: Persians want Monrachy. I refuse of course. They declare war! Our people are happy! Another sword promote during a Russina counter attack.
Turn 8; 430 AD; lux to 0%
. We kill a Russian archer. MM-ed Dyeburg: growth in 1, market in 1, more commerce. MM-ed Ivory City: market in 1.Turn 9; 440 AD;
Turn 10; 450 AD; Wounded troops fortify in Dyeburg.
Next please! N.B. There is one worker and one elite sword yet to move!
da save
Gengis Khan
Deity
Gengis Khan- UP!
Our Resident Flyboy- on deck
An Irish Monk- on the bench
A past & future HOFer
A man inlove with his car- just played
Got it, I'll try to play tonight after work.
Our Resident Flyboy- on deck
An Irish Monk- on the bench
A past & future HOFer
A man inlove with his car- just played
Got it, I'll try to play tonight after work.
