GoobNES01: Fallout

[Toteone]

The name is the Commonwealth Union and the world will never close for what is good until the endtimes as long as there are people to uphold that bright shining light.

The CU hereby considers itself to be at war with whatever nations have declared it so.

The CU is sending a diplomatic envoy to the IC to ask Goober Blix to send a team of men to take their four nuclear devices into custody from the CU.

-diplomatic connections terminated-

*Televised statement to populace
"May God have mercy on your souls my populace. Anyone who is unarmed should surrender to the attacking militaries. Anyone who wishes to be armed will be conscripted into the military."

 

[Contempt]

The Commonwealth was accusing the USA of having slaves and the RSA of oppressing and to presently have slaves! We did not accuse Japan at all, except for ignoring the greater evils (and that was directed at the USA).

Key word, had slaves, Prime Minister. I assume you know about the Emancipation proclamation? Or were you to busy to realize that too?

The Greater Evil is you, Prime Minister. I know my enemies already, I see those evils. The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Your scheming ends now, you lies, die here. Prepare yoursleves, the darkness is lifted, and your lies shine in the morning dew.

 

[Toteone]

(I said US having slaves, that was bad english - I meant has had (doing a lot of mssg.s here)- and SAR has slaves. And you're still at work with the segregation policies in the South.)

 

[Dexter]

To: The USA
From: Nigeria
We are disgusted along with the rest of the African Council at your alliance with South Africa. We will be the first to congratulate the CU on finally taking a stand against the real instigators of imperialism and oppression, the racist and deplorable South African government. We find it to be nothing more than shear political opportunism on your part to side with the South African government.

You spoke critically of "political schemeing" while at the very same time conducting it yourself. It is clear that the USA seeks to discredit the CU for her own gains, the CU has been a leading voice against imperialism and oppression on the world stage and the USA does not want this imperialism to end. It is clear that the USA does not want oppression to end in Africa because it benefits her.

While she tries to pretend to be a righteous nation against war she openly supports a nation that has in recent years invaded and oppressed independant nations and peoples in Africa. I put it to you Mr. President, that if you care so greatly about ending war and bringing peace to the world wy do you support the war-mongering, oppressive and rascist regime of South Africa?

Yours,
Chukwuemeka Ojukwu, Foreign Minister for Nigeria

 

[Contempt]

I have talked extensively with the RSA about ending opression, and even threated war agaisnt him several times. I ally with him now to end the CU's imperialism, and also with the promise of an end of the opression, and I would be most...displeased should it continue (wink wink nudge nudge).

You spoke critically of "political schemeing" while at the very same time conducting it yourself. It is clear that the USA seeks to discredit the CU for her own gains, the CU has been a leading voice against imperialism and oppression on the world stage and the USA does not want this imperialism to end. It is clear that the USA does not want oppression to end in Africa because it benefits her.

So the voice against imperilism included the voice of selling Nuclear Weapons? The attemped annexation of North Vietnam? I'm not sure where your living, but that certianly sounds like imperilism to me.

While she tries to pretend to be a righteous nation against war she openly supports a nation that has in recent years invaded and oppressed independant nations and peoples in Africa. I put it to you Mr. President, that if you care so greatly about ending war and bringing peace to the world wy do you support the war-mongering, oppressive and rascist regime of South Africa?

One problem at a time, one problem at a time. Those who rush blindly into making enemies lose much, ambassdor. Time must be taken, or the world will be as it was two years ago. Besides, in this instance, I'm going to war over the CU's espinoage attempts. If they try to steal from the RSA, what's to stop them from stealing from me? I have alot of plans, ambassdor, and I don't want them stolen.

 

[Toteone]

The CU ambassador in Nigeria replies:

The annexation of North Vietnam was attempted on the backgrounf of North Vietnam declaring continued intent to take over South Vietnam... just thought you might want to have it restated. And the nuclear weapons were dropped. Nuclear proliferation, yes in the past, imperialism? Nay! We have promised free elections that were reschedualed six months ago and before to be held about now [to this very round between orders.]

Shame on you US ambassador! Shame on you for your scheming!
And we wouldn't steal your projects, you have done no wrong against the CU until now. If your wish to declare war furor over military espionage towards South Africa then so be it! But you are fighting South Africa's war.
And on another note we don't think the US projects are worthy stealing even if we wanted to, frankly.

Since when were you allied to South Africa since when US ambassador? You should think things through. We will make this your North Vietnam.

[ooc] While national relations have been strained because of espionage, and I think war sometimes, it's regarded IR as a heavy-weight measure to go to war over it. To go to war over another nation's secrets, a preemptive strike against possible espionage is extreme. [/ooc]

 

[Dexter]

To: The USA
From: Nigeria
Your excuses for war are laughable and proof, if any was needed, of how little you have learnt from previous errors. To go to war with a nation for the crime of espionage is unbelievable, while you may not condone their actions, to use war as a means of punishment is foolish, for you shall only cause the loss of innocent civilian life instead of targeting those who committed the crime in the first place.

Do you want to know what I think Ambassador? I think the USA and other nations have been seeking for an excuse for a long time to invade the CU and now this recent scandal seems like the perfect opportunity for you to assert your military muscle once more over a small and relatively weak nation. I question why you were not so quick to arms against the RSA, who have conducted much more heinous crimes against humanity than simply stealing. I wonder why you were not so quick to arms against Australia who have been openly producing Nuclear Weapons as clearly reported by Goober Blix. I wonder why you have been so slow to assert pressure on Spain despite her continued wars of aggression through Europe and Africa.

I ally with him now to end the CU's imperialism, and also with the promise of an end of the opression, and I would be most...displeased should it continue

I find this completely insane. Your logic goes that, by declaring war on the CU, you can stop South Africa oppression. You have been duped Mr. Ambassador, South Africa is oinly using the USA's military power to get rid of a potential thorn in her side. She has no intentions of ending her oppression of the African people.

Do not try to pretend you even remotely care about the fate of the African people, for you clearly do not. If you were so concerned about their inhumane and brutal suffering you would have troops banging on the RSA's door now demanding they free these people and allow the African people equal rights.

Nigeria and the African Council gives its absolute support to the Commonwealth Union in her fight against the hypocritical American Government.

Yours,
Chukwuemeka Ojukwu, Foreign Minister for Nigeria

 

[alex994]

To Nigeria
From China

While our relations with the US is not very well, we must agree with them. We had found out about CU plans for an invasion of China with India and the USSR. They had offered to allow India to gain Western China and the USSR northern china...

 

[Dexter]

To Nigeria
From China

While our relations with the US is not very well, we must agree with them. We had found out about CU plans for an invasion of China with India and the USSR. They had offered to allow India to gain Western China and the USSR northern china...

To: China
From: Nigeria
Whether this is the case or not, the USA has not given this as a reason for her invasion and merely stated that the stealing of plans was reason enough. The stealing of plans, in my opinion, from a rogue nation that is an oppressor to millions. My point is that the USA, and other world powers, have shown a great deal of hypocrisy in dealing the RSA compared to dealing with the CU.

 

[Kozmos]

Bah Spain annexed several nations and noone gave a damn except the CU.I urge all nations involved in this to stop this maddnes.I also ask the CU to return the military plans.

 

[alex994]

To: China
From: Nigeria
Whether this is the case or not, the USA has not given this as a reason for her invasion and merely stated that the stealing of plans was reason enough. The stealing of plans, in my opinion, from a rogue nation that is an oppressor to millions. My point is that the USA, and other world powers, have shown a great deal of hypocrisy in dealing the RSA compared to dealing with the CU.

The USA previously had no knowledge of this, but now i ask you, is the US's claims of the CU as an imperialists nation legitimate in the face of these charges against the CU?

 

[Goober]

The nations of Belgium, Austria, Poland, The Netherlands, Denmark, Finland, Poland, and Sweden want the world to see what Spain has done. Spain has done many, many worse things then the CU has. Spain has unprovokedly attacked, invaded, and annexed no less then 9 nations, those being Iceland, Ireland, Portugal, France, Italy, Swtizerland, Mauratania, Algeria, and Morocco, and has annexed part of Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Austria, and Belgium.

Whatever crime or bad things that the CU has committed, the Spanish Empire, led by the evil Fascist Dictator Franco has done many times worse. Franco has the blood of many on his hands, he is creating an empire people, and no one has stopped him up until this point! Well, the EU shall. We say enough is enough! the monster that is Franco must be stopped! We call on all nations of the world to wake up, and realizxe that is happening. Franco is oppressing the free peoples of Europe that he has conquered! The free world cannot let this happen! The USA, and South Africa are going after the CU for a bit of espionage, and a little bit of conquering! Look at Franco! What he has done is a crime! He is inciting violence against all non-Christians, look how he endorses the pope when the pope, that fake, false Pope, says to convert or kill non-Christians! We know that tens of thousands have died, probably more! Why is the world not stopping this? To our former ally, the USA, look how Franco has taken Greenland! How much more proof do you need! We demand help, we must coordinate a massive attack to rid Europe, and, indeed, the world of Franco!

Who is with us? Who will stand up to the evil dictator Franco?

 

[Dexter]

The USA previously had no knowledge of this, but now i ask you, is the US's claims of the CU as an imperialists nation legitimate in the face of these charges against the CU?

To: China
From: Nigeria
I believe in the old adage of 'innocent until proven guilty'. If you have proof and can convince a panel of neutral international judge who have been allowed to consider both cases, then I would have to say it was imperialism, but only if you could get an unanimous vote from the judges.

Although this does not excuse the USA's claims, you say the USA had no knowledge of these plans, therefore their assessment of the CU would be false based on the information they have, therefore I do not think their claims of imperialism against the CU are legitimate.

Furthermore I would like to once again make the point that Australia, Spain and South Africa have all broken international law, yet have never faced any military threat from the USA and her allies. I think when you place the CU's actions in context with the aggressive invasion of independent nations and the persecution of local civilians by both Spain and South Africa, you see that the case for going to war with the CU is very slim.

The fact is the USA and her allies have once again failed the world by allowing certain nations to openly and actively flout international law while condeming and invading those who make minor mistakes. They are about to invade a democratic government while brutal and oppressive dictatorships are allowed to exist without hassle. This war will not help anyone and will only serving to once again cause the same old divisions through the world that almost destroyed it before. The very fact that they ignore those who are truly in need of their help shows that they will never learn the lessons of the past and will instead create a new generation that will forever blame them for the oppression that they face.

 

[alex994]

OOC: i gtg, i'll respond to that after i get back from lunch.

 

[Toteone]

*diplomatic relation resumed*

"The Commonwealth is handing over the designs in order to avoid a war. The designs are being sent back to South Africa. (order to Goober has been sent)"

The Commonwealth Union is also making an official statement of apology to China. The Prime Minister and all of his government apologizes, our reason was to attempt to reunite Vietnam and this was impossible without distracting China. We realize now the evils of going to war with China as it would cause far more violence then it would have solved. And we're also sorry on a more personal note. We'll pay 1 eco. of retribution to China and 1 eco. of retribution to North Vietnam, the latter payment having been requested by the Chairman.
In response to the EU. We feel for you but Spain has contributed troops to the Coalition in the past and due to a sense of loyalty we cannot take direct action against the Spanish. We will support you in the international forum as we have done in the past.

 

[Gelion]

If you need Brazil send me a PM....

 

[Goober]

interesting Diplo going on here.

For the record, i am planning on an Update Tuesday or Wednesday.

I have 6/22 orders.

 

[Fëanor]

Argentina to SADETO :

Okay. We have and are acquiring several technologies that we will be sharing with SADETO once they are finished. Our budget is tight for the next 6 months, perhaps we could begin putting this military together next year?

From RSA
To Argentina and SADETO
We hope that with Acquiring you don’t mean purchasing or accepting CU or by any third party delivered stolen South African technology, if you do so you will ruin any chance of a friendly relation with South Africa and we will not sell armaments of licenses to you and SADETO members
However if that is not the case the Republic of South Africa is willing to sell SADETO building licenses and/or equipment at sharp prices.

I believe in the old adage of 'innocent until proven guilty'.

From RSA
To Nigeria
We laugh at your hypocrisy, attacking us on our apartheid policies while you yourself placed a death penalty on people for being white.
You accuse us for annexing several other nations did was to restore peace and order were there was anarchy.
You accuse us to oppress the Native Africans. The only ones that suffer are the ones that have been instigated to revolt by you, the population at large is well fed and employed and are experiencing steadily rising living standards, that will one day permit us to abolish Apartheid.
You cant say the same about your nation can you? Conquering Cameroon and spending you your Economy solely on military, keeping your people ignorant and poor.

"The Commonwealth is handing over the designs in order to avoid a war. The designs are being sent back to South Africa.

From RSA
To CU
We are happy to see you are willing to reason, the RSA has suggests the following agreement in order to reinitiate relations, feel free to discuss and negotiate it, id like to hear your arguments if you deem some points unfair.

1. The CU Pays 20 economies to the RSA as damages (total income for 1 turn of the CU plus colonies)
----- the damages are for stealing, selling tech to third parties, lost sale profits to those third parties, lost profit due to further proliferation from those third parties, lost of technological advantage, costs of technological research, cost of technological research to reestablish dominance in those sectors.

2. IC (UN) inspection team goes to CU to investigate and confirm that designs are destroyed and no research or production based on them takes place, teams remains for 5 years.

3. CU embassy in monitored by RSA agents, to assure the embassy cannot be used for further Espionage or Terrorist actions against the RSA.

 

[Goober]

For the record, the CU has not sold any of the designs to any NPC nation, they all fear reprisals from South Africa. Nor has any NPC nation accepted the technology from the CU even when offered at no price, for the same fear of repirisal.

OOC - I love being the bastard who throws little wrenches into the best laid plans . . .

 

[Fëanor]

The Commonwealth Union is also making an official statement of apology to China. The Prime Minister and all of his government apologizes, our reason was to attempt to reunite Vietnam and this was impossible without distracting China. We realize now the evils of going to war with China as it would cause far more violence then it would have solved.

This Chinese war the CU tried to start was funded by giving (amongs other things probably) India and USSR the stolen technology, so two PC nations have received my techs, and not just two nations but a former and present superpower, greatly disrupting the balance in the region.

OOC: since im quoting this post by the Toteone i might as well quote this too

In response to the EU. We feel for you but Spain has contributed troops to the Coalition in the past and due to a sense of loyalty we cannot take direct action against the Spanish.

Great Loyalty, you abuse MY forces in the coalition AND in the same turn STEAL my techs.