Gorgo now confirmed, so what about Isabella?

Not sure if a new LUA significantly changes how we, players, experience each Civ.

In any case, I have no doubt that new leaders help make the AI more diverse, due to the inclusion of agendas.

Let's hope we get both, DLC Civs and DLC leaders. Overpriced or not.
 
Not sure if a new LUA significantly changes how we, players, experience each Civ.
For Greece it surely game changes a lot. Difference between hunting city-state relations and wars-to-kill is totally different. And for America, for example, all bonuses for home continent are associated with Teddy, so this part of the game will be totally different for different leader.

Although, Philip surely shares his religion bonuses with the rest of the civ and Vic shares her bonus with England UD. So, those are likely to be changed less.
 
Unless they plan to do little microtransactions for different leaders, bundling seems like the most likely option, new Civs are generally the biggest seller, and then they'll fill out the rest of the dlc with alternate leaders, maps, wonders, scenarios, etc.

I'd imagine a map pack by itself wouldn't sell as much as when it's connected to new Civs and wonders
 
DIgital deluxe includes 4 dlcs at +20€ It specifically says that it will be a better price than the separate 4 dlcs. So each dlc will cost about 7-10€ It can't be a single leader. I would say 10€ for 1 leader for each existing civ.
 
DIgital deluxe includes 4 dlcs at +20€ It specifically says that it will be a better price than the separate 4 dlcs. So each dlc will cost about 7-10€ It can't be a single leader. I would say 10€ for 1 leader for each existing civ.
Yes, it's more than 1 leader per DLC, but it's also much less than a new leader for each civ. I'd say 10€ DLC will contain roughly 4 leaders.
 
For Greece it surely game changes a lot. Difference between hunting city-state relations and wars-to-kill is totally different. And for America, for example, all bonuses for home continent are associated with Teddy, so this part of the game will be totally different for different leader.

I see your point stealth_nsk, but "totally different" might be an overstatement.

Greece is still a culture-focused Civ with both Gorgo and Pericles. Not that there is nothing wrong with that, of course.

Yes, it's more than 1 leader per DLC, but it's also much less than a new leader for each civ. I'd say 10€ DLC will contain roughly 4 leaders.

It would be suprising for Firaxis to release a "only leaders" DLC.

A combined New Civ + New Leader + Map/Scenario is in my opinion a better guess for those 7-10€. As others have pointed out, Inca + Isabella + Terra Map seems very likely to me.
 
I see your point stealth_nsk, but "totally different" might be an overstatement.

Greece is still a culture-focused Civ with both Gorgo and Pericles. Not that there is nothing wrong with that, of course.
Well, that's the culture is the goal you're trying to achieve, but significant part of gameplay will be very different. I clearly imagine Gorgo declaring war on nearby city-state to chew its units, while Pericles will generally never declare war on city-state unless forced to.
 
My guess: Deluxe Edition DLC. That would explain why she is seen in the leader wallpaper but not seen in the Barbarossa leak as the developers did not use the deluxe version.
 
I would doubt that, as Leaders is literrally the thing that takes them the most time to make.
Sales price have nothing to do with the development cost. DLC which costs 1/5 of the game price could easily require 1/10000 of the game's amount of work. The most important thing is the value for customers.
 
I would doubt that, as Leaders is literrally the thing that takes them the most time to make.

If 50 or so € is enough for 20 leaders and a little bit of game around them, I don't think 10 € for 4 leaders is too much. ;) I would expect more content for 10€.
 
I just hope that Isabella and other alternate leaders changes their civ's gameplay a little tad more drastically than Gorgo did. I want unique leader units, buildings, and hell, even districts, too.

As for Isabella herself, an exploration focus that would synergize with the "Treasure fleets" UA would be great, I think!
 
I just hope that Isabella and other alternate leaders changes their civ's gameplay a little tad more drastically than Gorgo did. I want unique leader units, buildings, and hell, even districts, too.

As for Isabella herself, an exploration focus that would synergize with the "Treasure fleets" UA would be great, I think!

Alternate leaders might get LUU, but it seems extraordinarily unlikely that they would permit a civ to have multiple unique infrastructures.

The whole point of an alternate leader is to provide a different approach to the same set of bonuses. If you want something completely different, play a different civ.
 
Alternate leaders might get LUU, but it seems extraordinarily unlikely that they would permit a civ to have multiple unique infrastructures.

The whole point of an alternate leader is to provide a different approach to the same set of bonuses. If you want something completely different, play a different civ.

I don't know about the designer's intent of having multiple leaders, but If I want a different spin on an already known civ and I only get a cosmetic, Stacey-Malibu new hat kind of change, I will simply refuse to sell any euro of mine on such a superfulous, irrelevant content.
 
I don't know about the designer's intent of having multiple leaders, but If I want a different spin on an already known civ and I only get a cosmetic, Stacey-Malibu new hat kind of change, I will simply refuse to sell any euro of mine on such a superfulous, irrelevant content.
I don't have any problems with how you choose to spend your money.
 
The whole point of an alternate leader is to provide a different approach to the same set of bonuses. If you want something completely different, play a different civ.

I fully support the inclusion of multiple leaders and am all for playing as them, but in a way, I'm actually more interested in alternate leaders as something to play against; the different agenda could lead to a very different game, the same way that the differing hidden agendas could.
 
DIgital deluxe includes 4 dlcs at +20€ It specifically says that it will be a better price than the separate 4 dlcs. So each dlc will cost about 7-10€ It can't be a single leader. I would say 10€ for 1 leader for each existing civ.

The last Deluxe edition Firaxis did only came out to be about $5 less then if you bought the DLC separate so I wouldn't expect any huge savings here. And likely the "free" DLC will be something non-gameplay oriented like say a Scenario only pack.

I also wouldn't expect so many leaders just dropped into the game. Leaders will still be an exception not a rule. Outside maybe switching them in halfway into scenarios the only leaders that make sense are only that can really alter the gameplay with only a slight tweak and being constrained the other abilities. For instance with Greece they are both culture based games but with Pericles you drive it via diplomacy with CS and Gorgo via war. Looking at that framework India makes sense as multiple leaders where you have a religion based civ where one will drive via peace (Gandhi) where another could use conquest, growth, trade, etc. And to counter Russia would not make as much sense for a second leader since the civ is expansion based and Peter's LUA does not drive that play it only is there to support it. So a second Russia leader would have the same expansion playstyle but offer a much smaller change in how they support it.
 
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