That is indeed too many. Quite a few of them are food vans for the next wonder which could have already been built had French been willing to trade for Astronomy. They are not building Copernicus and they are not trading it. I gifted them to Enthusiastic and they still refuse to trade. Mongols have been researching Astronomy for ages and Japanese recently started. I was hoping to trade for it instead of discovering it on my own. It was not a big deal before Democracy but it is now. As for trade, you are right the pay offs are small but I need the routes to help my cities celebrate in Democracy. 10 of my cities celebrated after Democracy with lux at 30%, none had a marketplace, most had at least one route. Besides building vans for trading with the rivals I am also building them for my own off shore cities. The payouts are just as well since you get the offshore bonus instead of the foreign bonus and on top of that I get not one but two trade routes. Having said all that, 22 vans lying around is still a sign of poor planning. Having chosen the gardens over Colossus I suppose you plan to win by conquest since for a science city Colossus is extremely important. Besides the fact that despite the odds any outcome is possible, settlers should not be underestimated since they have a hit point of 2 where as all other ancient units have a hit point of 1. This means they can take twice as much damage before dying as any other ancient unit. You seriously think you can conquer before +500 on a map this large with restarts on? Unbelievable! I am not an EC player but I would not have guessed anything before +1000 possible. Impressive as always. You completed wonders before the rest of us at the same time that you were expanding faster than us.