GOTM 57 - Pre-game discussion

[Wardancer]

Are you aware of CRP placement ?
I don't like to combine that with palace flipping as your FP will not be in the centre of your starting core. (I actually don't like palace flipping anyway as it includes abandoning a perfectly good city)
Your last sentence seems to contradict your whole story..... That last sentence looks like it's from my script.

CRP placement isn't so important when using Paperbeetle's strategy due to the other rank corruption bug. When you do your free Palace Jump to the enemy core your cities will generally be rank 4-5 around your new capital. If you have been using a normal build pattern the towns around your FP (i.e. the first ring town) will generally be 2-4 and will all have minimum rank.

 

[tR1cKy]

Thanks to all the players who want to test their skills in the challenge. For some reason, i'm not so brilliant in domination games as i am (sometimes) in conquest ones, so it won't be easy to win this one. But i'll do my best, as always.

See you in the spoiler threads, oh brave contenders!

(got it)

 

[WackenOpenAir]

CRP placement isn't so important when using Paperbeetle's strategy due to the other rank corruption bug. When you do your free Palace Jump to the enemy core your cities will generally be rank 4-5 around your new capital. If you have been using a normal build pattern the towns around your FP (i.e. the first ring town) will generally be 2-4 and will all have minimum rank.

True, still, i just don't like it. Don't feel like thinking a lot about these things now, so we'll leave it at that
I seem to be doing just fine without palace jumps, and i think i would be doing worse if i did use the palace jump a lot. (I do think there are situations where it is good, but those would probably be long games, not conquest / domination games)

 

[Climhazzard]

I'm pretty terrible at these challenges, I just dont seem to understand the game as much as i thought i did i guess. But I'm willing to try this one.
Question though, is it me, or was the game posted 2006-07-15, and the deadline is also 2006-07-15?

 

[AlanH]

What? You can't do it in 24 hours?

Thanks for the heads up. Repeat after me ... Copy/paste/EDIT

 

[Climhazzard]

Not 24 hours when you live on the west coast and wake up in the middle of the day. Oh well, i need a new timezone

 

[AlanH]

Well, I can't control when you wake up - maybe you need an alarm call? The game was posted at around midnight PST, so you slept for 12 hours after it was posted? You really need to get your priorities right

The deadline stated is a date. The actual deadline is midnight at the end of that date ... at the International Date Line. That's 11:00 AM GMT the following day. Even if you ignored it for 12 hours and then woke up at midday PST on 15th - that's 9 PM GMT? - you'd still have 14 hours. No problem

Reality check: You have 31 days plus to complete this game. Have fun

 

[ainwood]

I try to make a minimum of one error in each game release - consider it an easter egg

 

[Beorn-eL-Feared]

Oh well, i need a new timezone

I try to make a minimum of one error in each game release - consider it an easter egg

And I once wondered why I subscribe to these threads

 

[Htadus]

I am having a hell of a time deciding what to do. I down loaded predator save last night thinking I want to join the crowd but did not have the guts to start it. (It is a emperor level game for all practical purpose) I want so badly to go for 20K culture. What to do? What to do?

If I go for culture, I will build cap next to coast. Yes it will not be Predator.

If I go for PDC I would use scout to see over the mntn and decide where to take settler. I might waste up to 3 turns to look for a food bonus. Cow might be nice.

What to do? What to do?

 

[glenmetz]

If you settle on the luxury, will it then be connected or lost?

 

[AlanH]

Connected ... in ten characters or more

 

[glenmetz]

Connected ... in ten characters or more

Funny....
I went to respond with a "Huh???", then I understood the ten character line.

 

[Più Freddo]

what would be so bad about settling in place?

Well, Wine is a food resource, and food resources are completely lost when settled upon. You get two food from that tile also when you settle next to it. Compared to a Grassland tile there's of course no difference here.

You also often get slightly more commerce in the long run when not putting the capital (other cities are different) on a commerce resource. This is because you both get the capital centre commerce bonus and the tile bonus -- if you work the tile, which you will, thanks to the food bonus.

Then you also lose shields, one or two shields less depending on government, population, mine improvement.

Add to this the RCP advantages. Subtract being able to settle one or more turns faster and connecting your first luxury several turns earlier.

If you settle next to the wine hill, you'll work that tile immediately, it's like a roaded riverside BG. Pretty strong until you mine your first riverside normal BG. Eventually three tiles (Wine, BGx2) will each earn 2-2-2 in despotism. In republic/monarchy the Wine jumps to a whopping 2-3-3. Then start the Golden Age... At all stages this tile is best left unsettled.

 

[Marsden]

Thank you, Più Freddo and Tone.

I don't really know what I will do, but thanks for th information. I know I really should know these things, but they seem to elude me.

 

[denyd]

Looks like this one is going to get skipped as COTM 26 just will not end.

I'll probably fill in whatever time is left before COTM 27 starts fooling around with Civ IV. I bought the original but it kept crashing my system. I never tried the new patch. So I'll reload it, add the new patch and put in that extra memory I picked up and see what it looks like.

 

[Niklas]

Oh i like pangea maps and conquest games !
I'm gonna be on a vacation (including WackenOpenAir festival ) until august 12 or so, so i can't join your challenge

August 12, that still gives you 4 days to finish the game, doesn't it?

 

[Paul#42]

August 12, that still gives you 4 days to finish the game, doesn't it?

You should count in some days for recovery...