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Discussion in 'Civ3 - General Discussions' started by unexplained, Jul 6, 2004.

  1. unexplained

    unexplained Prints of Whales

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    Yes, I expect this question may be quite common, and there is probably already an answer for it somewhere, but I have spent a bit of time looking and havent really found it, so I thought I would ask:
    I always tend to go for demo as soon as poss, and stick with it through thick and thin as I like to have heaps of money and shiney new toys that no one else has, but obviously my citizens are not fans of my constant warring, and I get sick of little bite sized battles. What is the best gov for frequent wars, and can you still maintain a bit of a tech edge in the process, or is it one of those trade off things?

    Cheers for any help or directions where to find the answers.
     
  2. zjl56

    zjl56 Chieftain

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    Probably Monarchy. No war weariness not that much corruption.
     
  3. unexplained

    unexplained Prints of Whales

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    Fair Enough. I shall turn America into a monarchy. I bet Dubya wishes he could do the same.
     
  4. socralynnek

    socralynnek Civ & Hattrick addict

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    Communism or Facism, depends on how big your empire is.
    There is a strategy article in the war academy section to tell which is better in your case.
     
  5. Masquerouge

    Masquerouge Chieftain

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    Monarchy is efficient until you discover Communism and Fascim. (Very) simply put, communism is good if your empire is huge while Fascim rocks when your empire is not so big.
     
  6. player1 fanatic

    player1 fanatic Fanatic

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    But beware of pop rushing...
     
  7. Turner

    Turner Chieftain Retired Moderator

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    Which is why I prefer Republic. Yes, it is a WW gov't, but done the right way you can have huge long wars with little to no WW. Police Stations & Universal Sufferage go a long way to combating it. Plus getting the AI to declare on you, as not losing many units. It can be done.
     
  8. Tranquility

    Tranquility Grand unifier

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    I like republic, yet i see i fail to see why people stick with it for war. For warfare, i really prefer using commie. As for pop rushing, i msut've rushed like 7 cities with it, and the people NEVER said a word(maybe i'm jsut lucky, who knows?). Plus, when you have alot of citites, all of em have pretty good production. Anyway, it's my 2 cents, you guys are free to disagree, and eleborate your opinion.
     
  9. Emp.Napoleon

    Emp.Napoleon SUPER EMP!

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    I say republic, for the same reasons turner_727 said.
     
  10. dmanakho

    dmanakho Chieftain

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    At the beggining of the game:
    Monarchy is best if you are planning lots of wars and have little luxuries.
    If you have luxuries and good income then Republic is preffered due to lower corruption levels.
    Towards the end of the game:
    When you have communism discovered if your civilization is huge nothing beats communism due virtually no corruption in cities, otherwise stay on republic.
     
  11. microbe

    microbe Cascaded Mansion

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    I simply cannot stand pop rushing. I almost always stick with Republic.
     
  12. Tranquility

    Tranquility Grand unifier

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    Liek i said microbe...i've only expecericed pop rushing side-effetcs in despostism. Once i'm in commie, my people NEVER say a word about it. They never ''say we cannot forget your cruel opprecion'' to me. Maybe commie does that. Or maybe it'S cause i have so much luxuries and all my cities have markets.

    As for the republic thing...fine i'll give it a go. I'm conquering the world(or trying) with the iroquois. I have alot of luxuries...so i'll give it a go. I WILL return with my experience with it(it just might be positive...i'm serious).
     
  13. Tranquility

    Tranquility Grand unifier

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    Oh, one last thing dmanako. Why choose republic over democracy?(this isn't an attack, just an ordinary question)
     
  14. player1 fanatic

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    Because of Republic unit support cost on avergae you'll pay less money for military upkeep and that means more gold and research.
     
  15. dmanakho

    dmanakho Chieftain

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    Yep, and also with democracy it's really impossible to be a war monger.
    Democracy is good when you have medium size country and going for non military victory.
     
  16. Turner

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    First off, I'm not a big fan of pop rushing. I don't like dealing with the extra unhappiness associated with it. Of course, I used to be a big fan of guv'nors too...

    Secondly, I generally don't have the time to switch to commie and back again to republic. And I"m not going to limit myself to religious civs just so I can get the two turn anarchy. When I'm that late in the game, I'm generally looking at 7 turns of anarchy. No thanks. I'll deal with the WW in Republic. Now, when I'm playing a religious civ, I'll change more frequently...
     
  17. unexplained

    unexplained Prints of Whales

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    I am on monarchy, and it is modern age and I am getting advances about every 7-10 turns, and my empire is now continent size on a huge map, on regent. I am at the point where i am so far in front that i reckon i could win from here on permanent anarchy, so i guess it is a good time to experiment a bit. Its all going well thus far, but I guess I can hoist the hammer and sickle over the White House for a bit and see how that goes. Then I think I might bomb Moscow. In memory of Ronald. Its what he would have wanted.
     
  18. OzzyKP

    OzzyKP Chieftain

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    Can anyone tell me what the point of feudalism is? It seems to be to be a totally worthless government, especially with monarchy as an alternative.
     
  19. dmanakho

    dmanakho Chieftain

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    I never use it, although in previous threads about governments some people defended it and said it is good in certain cituations.
    It should have lower corruption than monarchy and better support if most of your cities below population of 6.
     
  20. Doc Tsiolkovski

    Doc Tsiolkovski Deity

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    That isn't the problem with pop-rushing. Ever tried to pop-rush an Army? One Citizen = 20 Shields, who wants to kill 20 Pop? Or 5 Pop for Infantry?
     

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