Governments

[The Shepherd]

I'm confused - why is CivIII atrocious at handling corruption? It's annoying, but I think it's a pretty elegant, if complex, solution.

Just because humans expand in such a way that makes for a lot of corrupt cities doesn't mean the handling is bad...

Personally, I think the corruption model adds a lot to the game.

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My Island has all the cities adjascent to my capital, they all have couthouses, they all celebrate "we love the Sir day", yet even after I switch from despotism to monarchy (Which supposedly has a loyalty factor, there is still corroption in my realm of net -8 at times. I thought corruption was supposed to get worse every increment you get away from the capital, and that all that other stuff is supposed to mitigate it, so why not 0 corruption? In civ 2, it was possable for your small civs to have 0 corruption. I don't like the default assumption that corruption must be inevitable, or the assumptionm that I (the sir) can't be corrupt (no corruption in capital city. Who's to say I don't take bribes just as readily as my governers would, or back on the other hand, that I couldn't judge my governers character when hiring them to not appoint folk who would take bribes, etc forms of corruption.

 

[The Shepherd]

The Shepard:
You aren't makeing any sense to me. Are you saying you switch to communism, build the Secret Police and then switch to Fascism? Why would you do that?

Well, I'm a religious civ, so there is only turn of anarchy. But basically yeah. In civ 2, I would relocate my capital, build a courthouse in city one, than put my capital back, or use the copy another citys improvemnt cheat to put a courthouse in. I like for every single improvement possable to be in my city view. Even several different types of power plants etc. I like to look at the picture with every speck of space full.

 

[Sir_Lancelot]

Maybe Im weird, but I've been staying in despotism for the last 5 or 6 games. I poprush units fast and I dont worry about sheid production outside of my core. My workers have less to do, just make roads and maximise food. Cities build barracks, settlers, workers and whatever the top offensive unit is. nothing else. When I need troops the corrupt noncore cities are able to poprush vet troops (its better than drafting)

If despotism works "well" for you, then I think you play on a too easy level. Choose better government and move up two levels.
Despotism is not good for pop-rushing, every tile producing more than 2 food get the despotism penalty.

I prefer democracy because it has little corruption. I do not use republic (in civ3 republic has no free units). Right now I am in demo and have been at war for maybe 40 turns. Just fight careful and try to avoid losses, have many luxuries (I managed to get all 8). With the lux slider at 50% I keep almost every metro in WLTKD.

Edit: Me using demo as war time government might mean I too play on a too easy level.

 

[MAS]

Well, I'm a religious civ, so there is only turn of anarchy. But basically yeah. In civ 2, I would relocate my capital, build a courthouse in city one, than put my capital back, or use the copy another citys improvemnt cheat to put a courthouse in. I like for every single improvement possable to be in my city view. Even several different types of power plants etc. I like to look at the picture with every speck of space full.

Seems like you play Civ3 as if it was a type of SimCity.
Don get me wrong: There is nothing wrong with that of course. Its your game, and your free time.

But you are basically playing a different game than (I assume) most other people in this forum. Although you use the same software for it.

 

[Tone]

Edit: Me using demo as war time government might mean I too play on a too easy level.

If it was OK for Moonsinger, then I'd say there's nothing wrong with that. No one could say that she played on too low a level. link to Moonsinger's article about using Demo in the War Acadamy.

When playing vanilla/PtW (very rare these days), I still use Republic more often than not as my prefered first government switch though. I presume that you use Monarchy, Sir_Lancelot?

 

[Sir_Lancelot]

Yes Tone, I use monarchy until democracy is discovered. I would not go through many turns of anarchy only to switch from republic to demo.

My most corrupted cities (other side of the globe) have only about 50% corruption when WLTKD is celebrated. Not too bad.