Goz7 - The Squeeze
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Kaiser_Berger
Terran Emporer
Get one game done and another one pops up 
Got it!
Got it!
Kaiser_Berger
Terran Emporer
Preturn- Looks good. Will squeeze some more.
Early- Larsa squeezed in.
Mid- Nimrud, Zamua, Khorasbad and Hindana squeezed in.
Mono comes in, and we start on Theology as several lack it.
We meet the Inca who are ahead of us in tech.
Late- I spot a musket in a Japanes city. I also note that the Inca and Japanese are at war, as I witness an Incan warrior attack that Japanes musket. The warrior actually redlined it before keeling over
Summary
We have more cities, more military, and more workers. We can squeeze another city in by Larsa.
Early- Larsa squeezed in.
Mid- Nimrud, Zamua, Khorasbad and Hindana squeezed in.
Mono comes in, and we start on Theology as several lack it.
We meet the Inca who are ahead of us in tech.
Late- I spot a musket in a Japanes city. I also note that the Inca and Japanese are at war, as I witness an Incan warrior attack that Japanes musket. The warrior actually redlined it before keeling over
Summary
We have more cities, more military, and more workers. We can squeeze another city in by Larsa.
Pre-turn - Fiddle around with tiles and find another 7gpt, I up research a notch and with a scientist we get Theology in 10 turns.
Iron would be worth Republic, Theo, silks and some gold from Inca, but I won't gamble with our rep. If the iron disappears, we can throw this game down the drain.
Sumeria have extra horses, but they are expensive, around 15 gpt and 50g.
Sumeria also outscore us by 6000 cp already!
Early: Sumeria starts Copernicus!
We finish a couple of cathedrals.
Middle: Sumeria finish Copernicus.
Found another town.
Late: We learn Theology and trade it to Zulu for Engineering and 12g.
Education would cost us most of our income and I doubt we would get Invention for it.
So we better use our gold to rush some stuff for now? We're making around 69gpt atm.
Iron would be worth Republic, Theo, silks and some gold from Inca, but I won't gamble with our rep. If the iron disappears, we can throw this game down the drain.
Sumeria have extra horses, but they are expensive, around 15 gpt and 50g.
Sumeria also outscore us by 6000 cp already!
Early: Sumeria starts Copernicus!
We finish a couple of cathedrals.
Middle: Sumeria finish Copernicus.
Found another town.
Late: We learn Theology and trade it to Zulu for Engineering and 12g.
Education would cost us most of our income and I doubt we would get Invention for it.
So we better use our gold to rush some stuff for now? We're making around 69gpt atm.
Sir Bugsy
Civ.D.
I have it.
Edit - My machine is telling me that the save has a virus and can't strip it out.
Edit - My machine is telling me that the save has a virus and can't strip it out.
Virus?
Hmm, I upload another save then. What happened was that I crashed out while uploading the save as an attachment. I just upload it normally.
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads8/Goz8_1250BC.SAV
Hmm, I upload another save then. What happened was that I crashed out while uploading the save as an attachment. I just upload it normally.
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads8/Goz8_1250BC.SAV
I can load it ok. I think some virus checkers look for a given sequence in files (the sequence being the virus). So a random *.sav file can look like a virus purely by chance.
It looks like Trading for Education is worth it even though it is costly. 3 other civs don't have it so we could trade it for Chivalry, Invention, or Republic. One or more of the civs may be researching Education which means we couldn't trade for it.
Only Sumeria has Horses and getting both Education and Horses is impossible so we won't be able to build knights right away.
I would go for Invention first on the trade. I think we want to stay Monarch for now (see below) so Republic is not useful. With Invention, if the AI's might have Gunpowder we could trade for that. Otherwise I would trade for chivalry and then republic.
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I really think we need to gear up for war. We can't catch up with Sumeria in culture no matter how many buildings we build unless we have more towns and Sumeria has less. That means we need a war. I would delay further culture gains for now and build up a bunch of knights[Edit: Assuming we can ever afford horses and Chivalry]. We are right next to their core and can hit them hard in the culture department.
We may not be able to go to war right away, but we need to do so within 30 odd turns or they will have rifles and be very hard to hurt. If we have to wait for Infantry and Artillery we will be really hurting culturally (especially as we will lose several cities to flips).
It looks like Trading for Education is worth it even though it is costly. 3 other civs don't have it so we could trade it for Chivalry, Invention, or Republic. One or more of the civs may be researching Education which means we couldn't trade for it.
Only Sumeria has Horses and getting both Education and Horses is impossible so we won't be able to build knights right away.
I would go for Invention first on the trade. I think we want to stay Monarch for now (see below) so Republic is not useful. With Invention, if the AI's might have Gunpowder we could trade for that. Otherwise I would trade for chivalry and then republic.
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I really think we need to gear up for war. We can't catch up with Sumeria in culture no matter how many buildings we build unless we have more towns and Sumeria has less. That means we need a war. I would delay further culture gains for now and build up a bunch of knights[Edit: Assuming we can ever afford horses and Chivalry]. We are right next to their core and can hit them hard in the culture department.
We may not be able to go to war right away, but we need to do so within 30 odd turns or they will have rifles and be very hard to hurt. If we have to wait for Infantry and Artillery we will be really hurting culturally (especially as we will lose several cities to flips).
Sir Bugsy
Civ.D.
OK I have it. It may take a while since I'm up in everything right now.
Sir Bugsy
Civ.D.
Pre-flight Tell Wilaya doesnt have a temple. Switch to a temple.
Early Spend 20G rushing Carchemishs temple, and 56G on Nimruds. Renew the ivory for furs deal with Germany, but have to kick in 7gpt. Rush Larsas temple for 40G. Rush Zamuas temple for 52G.
Gilamesh demands 20G. Fine.
Khorsabad: Temple=>library
Babylon: MDI=>settler
Akkad: Cathedral=>MDI
Larsa, Carchemish, Nimrud, Zamua: temple=>library
Samarra: MDI=> treb
Sumer builds the Sistine Chapel.
Byzantines complete Bachs
Middle - Nada
Babylon: settler=>settler
Nenevih: MDI=>MDI
Ellipi: cathedral=>pike
Ashur: market=>FP
Uruk: MDI=>Cathedral
Nippur: barracks=>cathedral
Sumeria builds Magellans
Late - Found Karana. Hurry Maris library for 32g.
Buy Education from Theodora for WM, 302G & 33GPT.
Buy invention from Shaka for Education & 5G.
Babylon: settler=>treb
Akkad: MDI=>MDI
Ellipi: Pike=>MDI
Samarra: treb=>cathedral
Mari=>library=>cathedral
Nineveh: MDI=>univ.
After Action We have an uphill battle. We may need to consider some warfare.
Merry Christmas everyone.
Save: http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads8/Goz7,_450_AD.SAV
Early Spend 20G rushing Carchemishs temple, and 56G on Nimruds. Renew the ivory for furs deal with Germany, but have to kick in 7gpt. Rush Larsas temple for 40G. Rush Zamuas temple for 52G.
Gilamesh demands 20G. Fine.
Khorsabad: Temple=>library
Babylon: MDI=>settler
Akkad: Cathedral=>MDI
Larsa, Carchemish, Nimrud, Zamua: temple=>library
Samarra: MDI=> treb
Sumer builds the Sistine Chapel.
Byzantines complete Bachs
Middle - Nada
Babylon: settler=>settler
Nenevih: MDI=>MDI
Ellipi: cathedral=>pike
Ashur: market=>FP
Uruk: MDI=>Cathedral
Nippur: barracks=>cathedral
Sumeria builds Magellans
Late - Found Karana. Hurry Maris library for 32g.
Buy Education from Theodora for WM, 302G & 33GPT.
Buy invention from Shaka for Education & 5G.
Babylon: settler=>treb
Akkad: MDI=>MDI
Ellipi: Pike=>MDI
Samarra: treb=>cathedral
Mari=>library=>cathedral
Nineveh: MDI=>univ.
After Action We have an uphill battle. We may need to consider some warfare.
Merry Christmas everyone.
Save: http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads8/Goz7,_450_AD.SAV
I think that makes you up Microbe. I think we should make war with Sumeria our number one priority. We need to weaken them.
[Edit: We also have no Embassy with the Byzantines. I would make one. Are the Byzantines and Sumeria at war? If so, we want to declare war if we possibly can. It will be much easier to fight with help from Byzantium. (I notice a city that might have formally been Byzantine)
[Edit: We also have no Embassy with the Byzantines. I would make one. Are the Byzantines and Sumeria at war? If so, we want to declare war if we possibly can. It will be much easier to fight with help from Byzantium. (I notice a city that might have formally been Byzantine)
If you forgot:
We are at that point of the game now, so make sure to have some settlers ready too.
Bugs:
Thanks Hawkeye!
Roster:
1 - Bedhead
2 - Kaiser Berger
3 - gozpel
4 - Sir Bugsy -> Just played
5 - microbe -> UP
6 - Greebley -> lurking
I will be quite busy from now and the upcoming week, so I might not be able to play at all. I'm sure other team-members has a real RL too, so players can swap and skip at their convenience. If a save is ready and noone grabbed it, anyone with time on their hands can take it. No stress!
Happy holidays to all of you.
We are at that point of the game now, so make sure to have some settlers ready too.
Bugs:
Thanks Hawkeye!
Roster:
1 - Bedhead
2 - Kaiser Berger
3 - gozpel
4 - Sir Bugsy -> Just played
5 - microbe -> UP
6 - Greebley -> lurking
I will be quite busy from now and the upcoming week, so I might not be able to play at all. I'm sure other team-members has a real RL too, so players can swap and skip at their convenience. If a save is ready and noone grabbed it, anyone with time on their hands can take it. No stress!
Happy holidays to all of you.
Sir Bugsy
Civ.D.
I think if we raze a city within range of our boarders, we will probably be able to replace it. Our culture has expanded a lot. It is just that so has everyone elses's.
Microbe,
I know we have switched the last two turns, but technically, you are up. Do you want to play this next or shall I?
I am fine either way so whichever is more convenient for you...
I know we have switched the last two turns, but technically, you are up. Do you want to play this next or shall I?
I am fine either way so whichever is more convenient for you...
Got it.
I couldn't play much last night, but looked over the game.
Bugsy, I am suprised you didn't do the 3-fer. I went back and tried it and you can get Education, Invention, and Gunpowder or Chivalry (depending on which AI you bought invention from). The 3rd AI without Education was researching it and thus wouldn't give you a tech.
A war with Sumeria doesn't look like a good prospect at the moment. Our cities are too close and the number of Sumerian units is huge (The ones moving around on our borders is enough to be scary).
The problem is I feel we need a war with Sumeria or we will lose. I would like to attack them sooner while they don't have cavalry (at least that I have seen) and their towns are guarded with Pikes and not Rifles (or infantry).
I will do what I can toward war. We may need more cash to support units though. I think I will build walls in towns. Will also work on getting Gunpowder as we can then build muskets and play defensively.
In any case, I think we should work on the war rather than building cultural buildings. It just isn't going to be possible to out-culture Sumeria.
Bugsy, I am suprised you didn't do the 3-fer. I went back and tried it and you can get Education, Invention, and Gunpowder or Chivalry (depending on which AI you bought invention from). The 3rd AI without Education was researching it and thus wouldn't give you a tech.
A war with Sumeria doesn't look like a good prospect at the moment. Our cities are too close and the number of Sumerian units is huge (The ones moving around on our borders is enough to be scary).
The problem is I feel we need a war with Sumeria or we will lose. I would like to attack them sooner while they don't have cavalry (at least that I have seen) and their towns are guarded with Pikes and not Rifles (or infantry).
I will do what I can toward war. We may need more cash to support units though. I think I will build walls in towns. Will also work on getting Gunpowder as we can then build muskets and play defensively.
In any case, I think we should work on the war rather than building cultural buildings. It just isn't going to be possible to out-culture Sumeria.
Sir Bugsy
Civ.D.
You're right Greebs. I didn't pay enough attention.
