Greece confirmed - one spot left for a civ

snapple232

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Just because the vikings were in the teaser, doesn't mean that they will be in the game. After all, the tower of Babel wasn't in civ3...
 
Why? All you Americans could actually play as America, crush the Russkies and then destroy the Canadian menace.
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Hopefully another surprise Civ like Songhai. Likely Persia or a Middle Eastern Civ though.
 
How is Songahi a surprise? Its Mali.

Not exactly although they are certainly related. Excited about Songhai anyway. It'll be the second Civ I play after the Mongols. :)

Sometimes history seems to repeat itself. The rise and fall of two medieval kingdoms of West Africa is an example of this. Mali and Songhai, as well as the smaller kingdom of Ghana before them, were once great trading kingdoms famous for their gold. Yet despite their greatness, they each declined for similar reasons.


The rise and fall of Mali and Songhai

The empire of Mali, which dated from the early thirteenth century to the late fifteenth century, rose out of what was once the empire of Ghana. Mali had been a state inside of the Ghanaian empire. After Ghana fell because of invading forces and internal disputes, Mali rose to greatness under the leadership of a legendary king named Sundiata, the "Lion King." Later, another great leader named Mansa Musa extended the empire. After his death, however, his sons could not hold the empire together. The smaller states it had conquered broke off, and the empire crumbled.

As Mali's power waned, Songhai asserted its independence and rose to power in the area. Songhai had been an important trade center within Mali's empire, just as Mali had once been ruled by Ghana. Great Songhai kings such as Sunni Ali Ber and Askia Mohammed Toure extended the Songhai kingdom farther than Ghana or Mali had before it and brought an organized system of government to the area. It was the largest and most powerful kingdom in medieval West Africa. The riches of the gold and salt mines drew invaders, though, and in the late sixteenth century a Moroccan army attacked the capital. The Songhai empire, already weakened by internal political struggles, went into decline.

http://www.learner.org/interactives/collapse/mali.html
 
Not exactly although they are certainly related. Excited about Songhai anyway. It'll be the second Civ I play after the Mongols.

Well yes, I meant to say not completely new. Interesting to see them use Songhai, instead of Songhay though. I'm sorta impressed O.o
 
Songhai would be cool, but I'm still thinking Persia.

Well, Songhai is already confirmed as one of the 17. Persia is likely to be the 18th Civ.
 
I think it'll be Spain, not Persia. Vikings are also a possibility, but I'd be greatly disappointed if they made it in over Spain or Persia.
 
Well, Songhai is already confirmed as one of the 17. Persia is likely to be the 18th Civ.

Sorry, wasn't aware.

That's awesome, although will it be something like the Mali?
Still think its more likely to be Persia than anything, even the Vikings (I know they are in the trailer).
 
I'd say Persia has a slight edge over Spain, but both would be fine by me. At least, both of them so much more rather than the Vikings.
 
Seriously doubt Spain, but now that i re-reread some articles and looked at the trailer again, I think that Vikings might have a (small) chance instead of Persia, but I'm still thinking Persia is most likely. :(
 
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