Guess the New Civs

Carthage's leader is Dido, Potential new civ "Huns" with city in Screenshot 1: Attila's court


http://ow.joystiq.com/screenshots/civilization-5-gods-and-kings-gdc-2012#/0


Spoiler :
leaderdido.jpg


WOW! Queen Dido looks awesome. I have been hoping to see her as the leader of Carthaginians since beginning.


Spoiler :
leaderboudicca.jpg


Boudica looks also very cool. Looking forward to meet her Pictish Warriors in my games :)


Slightly disappointed with inclusion of the Huns. I would have rather wanted Khazars from the region. Hopefully the Huns have some amazing uniques to make them fun and interesting Civ to play with...
 
Will be very sad if they do include the Huns. Still, Attila's Court is an odd city name.
 
Over at the screenshot analysis thread we are beginning to be certain of another civ:
It is yellow-orange in colour, think savannah. I lightened up the screenie and could more or less certainly identify two impi units with elongated shields, head dresses and all.

It must be the Zulu, no?
 
On the next screenshot there is another city from the same civ: Hippo Regius
So the civ is probably Carthage
Not sure how they got a city with the name: Attila's court.
Whatever is the case with the Huns, sounds aweful for a city name...

The owner of the city is definitely Carthage, but as others have said, it's a puppet, so Carthage wasn't the original owner of the city.
 
Some ideas:

1. "Attila's Court" is a mobile capital city that can be packed up and moved.

2. "Attila's Court" is a barbarian city, which is an unannounced new feature.
 
Question: what would be wrong with the Huns being in the game? Wouldn't that just presumably offer the chance for some fairly unique gameplay? What would be lost by having them as one of the nine new civs?
 
I looked up Attila's Court. Here is one quote about it:

"Priscus describes the court of Attila king of the Huns (448)
The Greek writer Priscus actually visited the Huns and conversed with Attila. He received a very different impression of the people from the fearsome pictures given earlier by Ammianus Marcellinus. Priscus...were sent by the Roman government with messages to Attila in 448. Priscus first tells of their long journey from Constantinople to Scythia, the territory then occupied by the Huns north of the lower Danube. After some difficulty the messengers obtained a first interview with Attila. Then, as the king of the Huns was about to move northward, he and his companion determined to follow him. After describing the incidents of their journey and their arrival at a large village, Priscus continues:
Attila's residence, which was situated here, was said to be more splendid than his houses in other places. It was made of polished boards, and surrounded with wooden enclosures, designed not so much for protection as for appearance' sake. The house of the chieftain Onegesius was second only to the king's in splendor and was also encircled with a wooden enclosure, but it was not adorned with towers like that of the king. Not far from the inclosure was a large bath built by Onegesius, who was the second in power among the Scythians. The stones for this bath had been brought from Pannonia, for the barbarians in this district had no stones or trees, but used imported material....

The next day I entered the enclosure of Attila's palace, bearing gifts to his wife, whose name was Kreka. She had three sons, of whom the eldest governed the Acatiri and the other nations who dwell in Pontic Scythia. Within the inclosures were numerous buildings, some of carved boards beautifully fitted together, others of straight planed beams, without carving, fastened on round wooden blocks which rose to a moderate height from the ground."

From the account left by Priscus, translated in J. H. Robinson,
Readings in European History, (Boston: Ginn, 1905), pp. 46-49

Attila's court/palace/big village was thus situated north of Scythia. Perhaps they have merged Scythians and Huns in GK, then this may not even be the Capital. Perhaps the civ is the Scythians, not the Huns?
 
I was expecting the Huns (Fall of Rome scenario, ding ding), so people don't confuse them with the Mongols. An idea of movable capital is great, but could be, possibly, fairly unbalanced. The city name, however, implies something like that. Wonder what are the remaining three civs.
 
So, Tyre, Prague and Zanzibar are also city-states
That means no Phoenicia or Bohemia civ - at least for now
This is a better thread for this post
 
Question: what would be wrong with the Huns being in the game? Wouldn't that just presumably offer the chance for some fairly unique gameplay? What would be lost by having them as one of the nine new civs?

Slightly disappointed with inclusion of the Huns. I would have rather wanted Khazars from the region. Hopefully the Huns have some amazing uniques to make them fun and interesting Civ to play with...


I happy about every new Civilizations, my only disappointment with Huns is that now I don't think we'll see the Khazars (as they occupied pretty much the same region).

Attila the King :king: of Huns surely fits to the Gods & Kings theme and takes his place as a daunting and intimidating leader "feared" (a role I was hoping to go for Vlad Tepes of Romania).


Huns
Leader: Attila
Capital: N/A
Music Theme:
Unique Unit: Javelin Thrower. Replaces Sperman. Cost: 50. Strength: 8. Ranged Strength: 6. Range 2. Movement 3. Both melee and ranged unit.
Unique Unit2: Mounted Archery. Replaces Horseman. Cost: 80. Strength 10. Ranged Strength: 12. Movement 5. Has a Foreign Lands Bonus: Combat Bonus outside Friendly Territory (20).
Unique Ability: Scorched Earth. Units gain Double Experience from Combat. Also +25 Culture towards Social Policies from every Destroyed City and have unique ability to destroy Capital and City State cities, which gives +50 Culture to the Huns.


That is the current concept idea for the Huns in the list. Worth to check out the links*, but as the Huns did not have a capital, Attila's Court is made up worth the game. That is my other slight problem with the Civ. Though it opens a possibility for Sioux and other Civs which didn't build any cities to be included (for Sioux they could use the names of the tribes).

*Also; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bleda
Attila and Bleda responded by renewing their campaign in 443. Striking along the Danube, they overran the military centers of Ratiaria and successfully besieged Naissus (modern Niš) with battering rams and rolling towers (military sophistication that was new to the Hun repertory), then, pushing along the Nisava, they took Serdica (Sofia), Philippopolis (Plovdiv) and Arcadiopolis (Luleburgaz). They encountered and destroyed the Roman force outside Constantinople and were only halted by their lack of siege equipment capable of breaching the city's massive walls. Theodosius admitted defeat and sent the court official Anatolius to negotiate peace terms, which were harsher than the previous treaty: the Emperor agreed to hand over 6,000 Roman pounds (ca. 1,963 kg) of gold as punishment for having disobeyed the terms of the treaty during the invasion; the yearly tribute was tripled, rising to 2,100 Roman pounds (ca. 687 kg) in gold; and the ransom for each Roman prisoner rose to twelve solidi.

Their demands met for a time, the Hun kings withdrew into the interior of their empire. According to Jordanes (following Priscus), sometime during the peace following the Huns' withdrawal from Byzantium (probably around 445), Bleda died (killed by his brother, according to the classical sources), and Attila took the throne for himself. A few sources indicate that Bleda tried to kill Attila first, to which Attila retaliated.

In 448, Priscus encountered Bleda's widow, then governor of an unnamed village, while on an embassy to Attila's court.

Battering rams and rolling towers could be the Hunnic unique units. Giving them a strong place as a siege civ...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huns
 
I was expecting the Huns (Fall of Rome scenario, ding ding), so people don't confuse them with the Mongols. An idea of movable capital is great, but could be, possibly, fairly unbalanced. The city name, however, implies something like that. Wonder what are the remaining three civs.

I am sure Zulu is one of them (Impi unit can be seen in the Great Prophet screenshot) so that leaves only two unknown civ spots... I believe those will be some new "fresh" Civs never before seen in the series OR (slight disappointment) and they will be Sumer and Hittites with Wonders of the Ancient World DLC abilities + leaders screens, I hope this isn't the case. If it will be, then we definitely need more DLC Civs! :D
 
Battering rams and rolling towers could be the Hunnic unique units. Giving them a strong place as a siege civ...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huns
If the Huns are in (which I personally doubt), then a siege unit would make sense.

One of the things that made the Huns so terrifying compared to contemporary civs like the Goths was that the Huns were able to lay siege to (Roman) cities.
 
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