Guess Them Eight New Civs

[Coffee]

Being a Canadian, I like how some people have mentioned Canada, but come on, what would our UU be? The war canoe? The mad trapper with a shotgun ? The Sea King helicopter? My vote would be the snowmobile

A Canadian UU? Thats easy, its the infantry.

 

[YNCS]

Unfortunately, the Mounties are police, not military.

 

[History Guy]

My guesses...

1) Incas
2) Israelites
3) Mayans
4) Sumerians
5) Khmers
6) Dutch
7) Portuguese
8) Ethiopians

Mayans and Sumerians are definitely confirmed by Firaxis. I have a sneaking suspicion, though, that we might see Poland wind up in there (despite anything I might say), because of popular demand.

 

[History Guy]

Now that I think of it, someone in that list won't get in if Polynesia does. Perhaps the Khmers won't be in.

 

[Louis XXIV]

Why is poland so popular?

Do you think they are making "full-Civs" for "The battle of Mesopotamia"?

By that, I mean:

Will all the civs that would be involved (Sumer, Babylon, Assyria, whatever) be playable without modding for a regular game?

Will they have animated leaderheads for Medieval Japan and WWII?

Stuff like that, that adds a lot of work for Firaxis to do

 

[Coffee]

Unfortunately, the Mounties are police, not military.

I do not have all of the details so I will limit my response to just two examples.

During WW1 the Canadian infantry won some 26 Victoria Crosses. An incredable feat. Some three divisions, close to or all of the Canadian contribtion, earned the right of title "Royal". The Canadian brigades were given the honor of entering Germany first at the close of the war.

During the Korean war, Canadian infantry positions were the pivot point during a Northern offensive. They held and were awarded an American presidential citation. The only foriegn nationals to have done so.

As a unique unit, the infantry is Canada's UU.

 

[lucidity]

I'm seeing a lot of support for a Polynesian civ. May I suggest it be based on the New Zealand Maori? Although historically NZ was the last place the Polynesians arrived at, it was by far the largest land mass and in my opinion a more deserving core than Samoa or Tonga. Only other alternative is Hawaii.

 

[lucidity]

Also, sticking Polynesians in NZ could solve the problem of empty Australia, even though it's not historically accurate.

 

[durfal]

The firaxis Civ 3 site had an update and they are showing two leaderheads and 4 units.

The leaderheads are Gilgamesh an Sumerian King and Mursilis an Hittite King.
Furthermore there is an Inca Unit shown.

So two more civs for sure:
The Inca and The Hittites
The Hittites lived in Turkey in the Ancient times.

 

[Dr. Dr. Doktor]

there need to be a lot more civs in the Americas for balance
How about the eight largest in N.A:
Cherookee
Navajo
Chippewa
Sioux
Choctaw
Pueblo
Apache
Iroquois (already there)
Lumbee

 

[Louis XXIV]

You forgot the Americans

So we know the:

Hittites (I'd like the Assyrians, but not anymore )
Sumerians (Fits nicely in a "Battle for Mesopotamia" scenario)
Mayans (Seems to be a Central/South (?) American scenario begging to be made)
Did they mention the Incas?

 

[Dr. Dr. Doktor]

Assyrians must definately be included. I envision a UU like the Aztec - that is a cheap chariot unit. The Assyrians virtuallly 'invented' militarism.

 

[Benderino]

Originally posted by Sultan Bhargash


2) An Alexander the Great or Roman aged scenario or scenarios that introduces the Nubians, the Hebrews, and the Hungarians (as the Huns).

I'm sorry, but the Hungarians are NOT the Huns. They are more closely related to the Magyars in terms of barbarian tribes during the fall of the Roman Empire.

 

[Louis XXIV]

Originally posted by Dr. Dr. Doktor
Assyrians must definately be included. I envision a UU like the Aztec - that is a cheap chariot unit. The Assyrians virtuallly 'invented' militarism.

The Assyrians also were pioneers with iron (I think they should be either mil, Sci or even sci, exp), masters of the seige, and switched to Cavalry effectively with everyone else (so they don't need a chariot UU). So they are definately a good choice (better than the Hittites)

 

[kring]

Originally posted by Louis XXIV
You forgot the Americans

So we know the:

Hittites (I'd like the Assyrians, but not anymore )
Sumerians (Fits nicely in a "Battle for Mesopotamia" scenario)
Mayans (Seems to be a Central/South (?) American scenario begging to be made)
Did they mention the Incas?

The Incas were mentioned in one of the first articles by Gamespot:

Civilization III: Conquests will feature a brand-new single-player campaign that will model eight different famous historical campaigns, including the battle for Mesopotamia, the battles between the Mayans and Incans, the struggle for control of feudal Japan, and even World War II.

By Andrew Park, GameSpot

I also would like to have seen the Assyrians.

 

[Louis XXIV]

First off, I know they are in now because of a Incan scout on the civ3.com page

But those civs didn't necessarily have to be in, they could have been just for a scenario

 

[Xen]

Byzantium- an important extension of the Roman empire, and an indipendent power even in the -very-early age of sail
UU-Cataphract-replaces knight- 5/3/2

Polynesia-huge expansionist civ, some archeologist even suggest that some may have reached the new world, which dosent seem all that unlikelly
UU-dug out raft-availible with pottery-1-1-3, holds 2 units, cheaper than galley

Inca- included

Maya-included

Sumur-included

thailand- need of a south east civ (to halt indian expansion in my world map games ) flavoerd history
UU-?

Azandi- the "zulu" of the congo gave europeans, and arabs alike more trouble than the zulu did with the brits at first, even going against worse odds
UU-Tribesman- replaces warrior-2/1/2(they were highlly aggresive, and soon after arab caravan activity started in the area it ground to a halt)

Plains indian tribe(take your pick)- helps keep America, the Iroquis, and the Aztecs at bay in N.America, cool history
UU-Brave- replaces ?-?/?/?

Poland- need of a new E.European civ, fits the bill nicelly, interesting histroy(and a new northern barbarian for my Romies to conqure!)
UU- ?

yes i know 9 differnt ones, but i think those are the top chices(I relly, relly hope Byzantium get made, a cataphatct would be awesome!)

 

[Dr. Dr. Doktor]

Re: Assyrians
Yes maybe they should have good siege weapon. When you read about the battles between the Assyrians and the Babylonians. It is amazing how many temples got destroyed in the process.
(By the way instead of temples the mesopotamian civs temples should be called ziqqurats.)

Also it was the Assyrians who gave much of their knowledge to the Persians, specifically 'code of laws', that is administrative practises.

Thus Mil/Sci traits seem appropriate.

 

[Louis XXIV]

What about the Hittites?

I can't think of anything but a chariot

 

[Dr. Dr. Doktor]

I think Byzantium is actually where the Roman "forbidden palace" was and not a civ in itself.

What about the goths, inventors of new architectural practices and conquerors of Rome and Spain.

Not to speak of the Scythians. A huge civ also which rode around on chariots and used human sculls as cups. That would make a nice leader head.