Happy Bajram Serif Mubarek Olsun

[NovaKart]

If someone buys a piece of mutton where do they get it from? A mutton tree?

 

[NedimNapoleon]

They're killed anyways in large butcher houses in pretty much the same way, its hypocritical if you eat that meat and say this is barbaric

 

[Winner]

There's no way to be killed painlessly, no matter how hard you try to convince yourself otherwise.

Yes, there is. But that's not the point here - when you slaughter animals professionally and according to civilized standards, you reduce their suffering to an acceptable minimum. On TV, I saw how this festival is "celebrated" in Libya. A father with his son buy a sheep. It's legs are tied so it can't walk, and they load it on a wheelbarrow as if it was a sack of grain. They take it home, where they slit its throat and leave it to bleed to death. Very civilized - if kids see that all the time, no wonder they grow up desensitized to killing.

 

[NovaKart]

Last year when I bought a sheep with a friend there was a butcher who did the sacrifice. He slit the sheep's throat and it bled out before he cut off its head. Is this more or less humane than how it's done in most slaughterhouses? I don't know. I think it's probably the way it was done for most of history. The time when the sheep actually died was just a few minutes.

 

[muhtesem insan]

saw this today

Spoiler :

source: http://www.bobiler.org/k.asp?id=2830

 

[r16]

the conditions of the ritual makes it that you must give up a better animal instead one that would be useless otherwise , means the animal certainly can not be ill or dead or whatever . Meaning the sacrifise can not involve stunning , and there has been at least 50 years of debate on that .

traditionalism generally wins only because , you can seriously find one or two kinda missionary types behind every proposal for modernity . And those types do not necessarily of the Christian Fundemanlists or whatever West exports these days , we have aplenty of "modern" types .

regarding kids watching etc this is considered a virtue that teaches them to understand the concept loss , death , accepting whatever . And of course there are supposed to be limits , a short exposure and not playing soccer with the ram's or bull's head .

 

[NovaKart]

The majority of people I know aren't doing the sacrifice. It's not because they object, it's just too expensive.

 

[HannibalBarka]

Yes, there is. But that's not the point here - when you slaughter animals professionally and according to civilized standards, you reduce their suffering to an acceptable minimum. On TV, I saw how this festival is "celebrated" in Libya. A father with his son buy a sheep. It's legs are tied so it can't walk, and they load it on a wheelbarrow as if it was a sack of grain. They take it home, where they slit its throat and leave it to bleed to death. Very civilized - if kids see that all the time, no wonder they grow up desensitized to killing.

You don't like blood sausage and foie gras, do you?
Hummm, your chances of befriending with the French are near Zero my friend