Have you ever played a whole game... WITHOUT RELOADING???

[bitparity]

Civ 3 is an awesome game. Especially when you work so hard on your empire and then one small mistake messes it ALL up.

Well real history is like that. So I'm wondering, have any of you ever played an entire game, at your appropriate skill level WITHOUT RELOADING?? Barring catastrophic crashes.

I only got through half a game once before my mistakes caught up to me. My large, highly technological and militarily under prepared civilization was steamrollered in 6 turns. It was painful.

Because in my opinion, real history comes with mistakes as well as victories. I'm wondering if anybody ever played it this way, with the full scope of both.

 

[Toastedzergling]

You should start playing Game of the Month, one of the rules is no reload. It's a lot of fun playing a no-reload game. I think better than a reload one.

 

[Yzman]

I have to confess I relaod quite a bit at bad combat results that I can't afford to lose or at failed espinage attempts that will hurt me too much. I know its cheating but that is the reason they allow you to take off the random seed now...

They way I look at it is as long a I'm not hurting anyone by doing it and it makes the game more fun to me, thats all that matters.

 

[Becka]

Usually, instead of reloading, if something doesn't go my way, I just start a new game. Especially if I lose a city or something big like that.

 

[Yzman]

Seems like a waste of all your time though doesn't it?

 

[Becka]

Originally posted by Yzman
Seems like a waste of all your time though doesn't it?

Playing computer games in the first place is a waste of time.

 

[Civddict]

I don't. At all. But I play on Warlord. There is no point for me to cheat. Game lose all addiction.

This is me (pink France) in my current game. I didn't reload even when 1hp China's infatry (last in city) from regular after 3 attacks in one turn went to elite and 3hp. I just had more tanks on face of the place

 

[Civddict]

oh BTW what happens to ironclad when he creates a Leader? mine is already elite should i RELOAD and try?

 

[Becka]

Originally posted by Civddict
oh BTW what happens to ironclad when he creates a Leader? mine is already elite should i RELOAD and try?

Can you modify an ironclad make a leader?

 

[Hurricane]

No, sea units can't create leaders.

 

[thefrenchzulu]

Originally posted by Yzman
I have to confess I relaod quite a bit at bad combat results that I can't afford to lose or at failed espinage attempts that will hurt me too much. I know its cheating but that is the reason they allow you to take off the random seed now...

They way I look at it is as long a I'm not hurting anyone by doing it and it makes the game more fun to me, thats all that matters.

Not reloading makes the game more fun. If you reload, you basically cannot lose.

Tips:
1. Don't go into battles you cannot afford to lose. Personally I go in with the idea that I might lose halve my units. I just keep on building more. (If you play MP, there in no chance of reloading) Planning your attack well, will lead to minimum losses, e.g bombard the to pieces of root them with horses and kill them with swordsmen.
2. Get spies with the civ, you are planning to kill, but first get MPP with all the other Civs. I often have MPP's with everyone when I'm insurging my spies. Even when caught, I seldom cause war. If it does, I'm ready

 

[Yndy]

Since I discovered civfanatics I stopped reloading as I saw that you could win without. In the GOTM I don't reload and if I have a terrible event ruining my game I just abandon it (like in GOTM X when my computer crashed and I forgot to load the autosaves).

In the other games I play I only reload for "testing" purposes. Meaning that during a game I decide that I want to test the AI's response to one course of action I have never tried before. Than I save, do the stuff and if it turns really bad I decide it was a bad idea and come back to the save.

Actually although I have made pre-emptive saves a lot I have only once reloaded when trying a tech theft for the first time. I lost all my money and got 'nada'.

As now I know the risk I don't load for espionage. I also saved before the first nuke, and before decalring war to the largest nation on the map but didn't take the save later.

I did not take the autosave even when my allies with MPP and RoP declared war and took 7 undefended towns a total pop of about 70. they razed three of them.

 

[The Last Conformist]

I rarely reload, and then only if I've made an actual mistake, like hitting the wrong key so that my settler moves adjacent to an enemy unit instead of moving away from it as intended. This happens every few games. I never reload just because I've taken a wrong decision.

I've also reloaded after deliberately doing something stupid a couple of times. F'rinstance, the first time I got an ICBM, I saved the game, nuked my peaceful neighbour's capital just to see the animation, reloaded and continued with the game.

 

[TheNiceOne]

Originally posted by thefrenchzulu
Not reloading makes the game more fun.

It seems that you lost the last two words of that sentence. I gues you meant to end it with "for me"

Seriously though, when new to the game I reloaded a lot, but now I almost never do, and certainly not because of a screwed up battle result, but maybe when I realized that I forgot something important and pretty obvious like changing the production from a palace to a wonder in time.

But people are different. There's no universal or objective "more fun" or "better" way of playing. Few people find it fun to loose and some prefer to reload to avoid this. They get most fun out of the game that way.

Note that 99% of the world's population probably think its more fun to do something entirely else than ever playing CIV.

 

[Ribannah]

Since I play slow, I have to save occasionally and reload the next day.

 

['Copter Pilot]

I think reloading is good if you want to learn things. If you're not sure whether starting a war would be good for your civilisation, save, declare war, and fight the war (not just taking a city or two, fight the war to its end), knowing that you can go back. But ultimately you'll learn how to judge these things yourself -- save and reload can be a means of achieving this.

Reloading to trick the random number generator is a different matter, I used to do that a lot, but found that I got much better at playing if I didn't, and that I enjoyed the games much more.

 

[Park Ranger]

Originally posted by TheNiceOne

Note that 99% of the world's population probably think its more fun to do something entirely else than ever playing CIV.

You must be referring to the 99% who have never played, right?

Current game I'm playing Babylon trying to build all the high-culture wonders and set up a culture victory in one city. A few turns from finishing Shakespeare's Theatre, the Egyptians beat me to it. I reloaded the oldest autosave and started playing again to see if I couldn't change the course of history....

After two turns came to my senses, went back to my original game, and started making a different plan. I'm definitely having more fun without reloading. However, I still can't get a good civ going on emperor level may use reloads on that one for a while 'til I get the hang of it.

So it's all in what you want to do, and what's fun for you. Making a habit of NOT reloading, IMO, gets you ready for things like GOTM and Multi-player.

 

[Panda]

I once tried playing without reloading. After six goody huts spitting out barbarians, I had enough.

General Load-Save is and will always be my friend

I'll give it another try. Some day in the future.

 

[Chieftess]

I hardly ever reload. When I do, it's if I press a wrong key, or hit enter once too often.

 

[satchel]

I'm not so tempted to reload based on bad decisions, like changing government at the wrong time or getting into a war I'm not ready to win. This is because my playing time is very, very limited - just a few hours on the weekends - and I don't want to have to redo a bunch of turns I've already done. So although I often find myself doing a safety-save before taking one of these game-changing decisions, I don't think I've ever gone back and replayed a portion of a game.

The only kind of reloading temptation I sometimes give in to is the goody-hut do-over when I get nothing, a useless "map of their region," or barbarians that kill my only scouting warrior. But I usually decide at the start of the game whether I will or won't allow myself goody-hut do-overs for that game, and then keep it consistent. That way when I compare my results against my other results, I can evaluate my game play relatively honestly.