HC-03: The Ottomanation

Got it. OK Advice from the roster. What are we heading for ?

I agree with stuge that galleons would be a good idea. I could spend this turnset just gearing up to that.
 
I agree with galleons and a build-up to take out auggie. Build Cannons and Grens this round.
Also, can we try to beef up economically? I will take another look at the save ASAP, but our size is good, we just need a way to move forwards technologically.
 
Hmm, our energies seems to be scattered. We are building a lot of infra, libraries and markets, a university. We have a good army now. Perhaps we should hit Rome soon with just the galleys , about 5 I think we have.

Also we are teching Nationalism, for draft and maybe Taj mahal. Should we switch to Astro?

I think it might be better to stay with Naionalism (8 turns), then draft and build Taj, and hit Rome from galleys. Pisae has a preatorian and a Knight, musket, not much more. We will just need some units in our north to not lose those cities.

Regarding the infra builds Maybe we should just spit out some canons? On the other hand we have gold to upgrade all our siege.

I'm for upgrading the catapults we have , building more Jans and cannons, and hitting Rome with Galleys.

The infra builds can come after our conquest of Rome. That way we will have units on the ground for Roosevelt if that seems like a good idea.
 
^^ Sounds good to me, go for it. Just beware Rome's galleons when shipping troops with galleys. Fortunately there's not much to sail between Ex-China and southern Rome.
 
I played fifteen I think , taking us up to turn 325. There is a flotilla of Jans, cannons and Grens upgraded from the maces. will it be enough ??

Aug has rifles

Spoiler :
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Oh dear .

and Pisae

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I think the galleys will be fine. Just jump over the ditch and after that get them into port to await upgrade. Or risk it and hit Rome directly . Or wait and upgrad them in 6 turns, but you'll need to turn off tech for a bit as I spent all the gold on grens and canons.

We are in Nationalism with 6 turns to Astro. Building grenadiers in most cities. Slobberinbear you may want to change that if you think we need more infra.

I'd attack in the next turnset if it were me. But it could be risky. I dont see that we have much option. If we take Rome and then flood him with units we will take the roman land. Then it may be an ugly struggle against Roose, who will also have rifles, or shift to space.

Toku wants us to cut ties withFrederick.
Spoiler :

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I say no becasue it's a long time before we declare on Fred, if we do at all.
 

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Roster

Hackapell:
mice:just played
slobberinbear: UP
pigswill:
stuge:
 
OK, next person definently should declare ASAP.

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got lots of money for lib: no reason not to trade. Used the money to upgrade galleys into galleons. More grens completed, but we should prioritize cannon now; they kill in warlords. that should be the building focus during the war.

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one word :eek:

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I spent a good 5 minutes thinking about this one. If I said yes, Freddy would not speak to us, and seeing as we will most likley take out our two greatest competitors soon, I want him as a trading partner. If I said no, Monty, who was with the hands full the entire round and still is, may have attacked us over freddy, very bad as Ganziantep has only Achmed guarding it :crazyeye:
I turned him down. Attitude remained the same (annoyed) so I think he's still going after freddy, as our power is 2x anyone elses.

At the end of the round, I changed to mercantilism at roosevelt's request. Why not? He can declare on toku if we want, so that's something for the next player to consider. Otherwise, war should be declared the next round. I am officially lengthening the truns now to 20 turns of peace and 10 of heavy war. I want to keep this moving, and hopefull to spark discussion.

Topics for discussion:
What Cities should we keep?
Dom or Space?
If dom, Who's next in the firing line?

The save:
 
We've got a tough struggle with Augustus' rifles coming up.

I think we should keep all the cities we can. Rome first or Pisae ? A big hit on Rome wil slow him down the most.

Pigswill is a good general. I think we will need it.
 
Sorry chaps, I've suddenly come over all civved out so I'll be skipping this round; hopefully I'll have got through this phase in a few days.

Stuge is a much better general than me.
 
Right, Roster Check.

The Roster:

Hackapell: just played
mice: swapped with Hackapell
pigswill: needs a skip
stuge: UP NOW
Open:

We have an opening, if anyone lurking would like to join.
 
Sorry but no can do. Good warmongering takes time and school is hitting my butt hard this week.
 
It looks like just you and me Hack. I can take it, or you can , as you like.

lemme know.
 
I went ahead and played 10 turns. Declared war, took pisae and rome, and am marching on Antinum. Made a mistake and our medic GG is lost :mad: otherwise, should be good to go. We have to hurry though, WW is taking a toll. I've already had to push up the culture slider to 20%.

The save:
 
The General survived. For some reason Antium's garrison didnt want to kill him.

Spoiler :
Added theatres to every city that didnt have one. We need to use that 30% slider. WW very high.

Took antium

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....and its a prize.

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It also has the pyramids so i switch to Police state to rien in the WW.

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It's OK now with theatrers whipped in a few cities.

Took Medilonium, the loss of a couple of cannons for both cities.

Microed cities to give us scientists, as we need to limp to rifling. Rep parts in BTW. I took rifling becuase we will need it even if we go to space.

took Neopolis, and you have just Cumae to take. Aug is stuffed.

So that's 10 turns to 1670.

A look at Rosse's city,

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a look at Fred's city.

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Roose's land is much richer by the looks.

We could build to space from here, or hit one of them. How about going buddhist to get monty/toku on side against Roose? We could sell them steel. Everyone want steel but I didnt trade it out to be cautious.

You will want to switch out of Police state unless we go stright into mor war. Probably Representaiton is best to get us to rifling with all the scientists.

It may be wise to stay on 20% culture, but up to you.


Roster ?
 

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I don't know whether anyone wants to or is ready to take it, and since I can't get to it until Friday, I'll wait.
I'd like to kill Rosse, just to knock out another competitor. Converting imo won't help, because they're angry for other reasons. Toku should warm to us as we are running his favorite civic, So Roose, and then if possible, Monty and his vassal for the dom. I don't think we have enough production to go space, so we should conquer the world ASAP. We should head towards industralism for tanks as well.
 
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