Sword_Of_Geddon
Arbiter of the Sword
Would that work with Enslaved Workers though?
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Camber
Resident Family Therapist
Yes, enslaved workers would also upgrade.
King Coltrane
King
it should. the way that goes as im sure you all know is by changing the graphix in the pedia file under animations, however i think that the way this should work is have the basic "merc" unit as like a hoplite or something then a swordsmen of some sort for the middle ages or even the swiss merc. and then a musketeer or grenadier. the problem however, is how do we get the stats to change so they arent completely obsolete. well have to figure that part out.
Sword_Of_Geddon
Arbiter of the Sword
We just may have something there...what would good stats for Mercanaries be? Remember they will be used in all four eras, but would be much weaker then true military units, even though for awile in Europe alot of the armies were mostly composed of mercanaries....lol
King Coltrane
King
i would say low hps, require maintenance, and id say if medieval infantry is 4-2-1 (which im sure its not) and pikes are 1-3-1 (which im sure they are not) then id have them as like 5-5-1 or 6-6-1 like quite high, but REALLY low hps. also give em amphibious attack. the idea here would be a unit that is powerful in medieval times (so units then overall shouldnt have too much more hp than the merc.) and still usable into 18th century times though at that point they would be both out-stat-ed and out-hp-ed so there really wouldnt be as much of a point to them anymore... which is good at that era! and afterwards they would basically be obsolete but you could still buy them, perhaps the modern version would be like a "terrorist" or something lol... though i dont thikn that would be best. but anyway, thats the basic idea id say
Sword_Of_Geddon
Arbiter of the Sword
I like that..But how do you make units change in appearence each error(including the Unit_32 icon?)
King Coltrane
King
(era lol, not error) but i believe the way you do that is through gfx for different ages. you know how the worker looks different in the modern age than it does in the ancient age? i think you simply put in the art folder "Worker Industrial Age" and itll use that for the industrial age worker, so maybe if you put "Mercenary Industrial Age" itll work the same way, well have to test this out though. and for unit_32, it can be the same one, i dont think thats such a big deal, the worker icon is the same for all the different age variations, so i think its ok.
tjedge1
Writer of writerly things
I think the icon does change inthe game for the worker, either way the best way is to look at how the worker is entered in the PediaIcons. I think there is an extra section for units that change between eras, like the army and worker. I can't remember, I don'tuse this feature much, but it's there somewhere.
King Coltrane
King
yeah i looked and didnt see it in the main vanilla Civ3 files so i wasnt sure, but i agree and am sure ive seen it before too.
vbraun
Raytracing
The Units32 era specific stuff is at the very bottom:
Then for the animations just above that:
As far as I can tell Era specific Civopedia icons are impossible. But I may be wrong.
Code:
#UNITICON_PRTO_Settler_ERAS_Industrial_Age
72
#UNITICON_PRTO_Settler_ERAS_Modern_Era
72
#UNITICON_PRTO_Worker_ERAS_Industrial_Age
73
#UNITICON_PRTO_Worker_ERAS_Modern_Era
73
#UNITICON_PRTO_Leader_ERAS_Middle_Ages
66
#UNITICON_PRTO_Leader_ERAS_Industrial_Age
67
#UNITICON_PRTO_Leader_ERAS_Modern_Era
68
#UNITICON_PRTO_Leader_SCI
169
#UNITICON_PRTO_Army_ERAS_Middle_Ages
69
#UNITICON_PRTO_Army_ERAS_Industrial_Age
70
#UNITICON_PRTO_Army_ERAS_Modern_Era
71
Code:
#ANIMNAME_PRTO_Leader_ERAS_Ancient_Times
Leader Ancient Times
#ANIMNAME_PRTO_Leader_ERAS_Middle_Ages
Leader Middle Ages
#ANIMNAME_PRTO_Leader_ERAS_Industrial_Age
Leader Industrial Ages
#ANIMNAME_PRTO_Leader_ERAS_Modern_Era
Leader Modern Times
#ANIMNAME_PRTO_Army_ERAS_Ancient_Times
Army Ancient Times
#ANIMNAME_PRTO_Army_ERAS_Middle_Ages
Army Middle Ages
#ANIMNAME_PRTO_Army_ERAS_Industrial_Age
Army Industrial Ages
#ANIMNAME_PRTO_Army_ERAS_Modern_Era
Army Modern Timestjedge1
Writer of writerly things
I could be mistaken about the icon thing then. I deleted this whole section in my mod and I haven't looked at the original text in quite some time.
Sword_Of_Geddon
Arbiter of the Sword
Wow! Thanks guys for all of your help so far. Here is what I intend on doing:
Add in a new Future Leader and Future Army, and also the era-specific mercanary unit..
Add in a new Future Leader and Future Army, and also the era-specific mercanary unit..
King Coltrane
King
heh, just gimme credit for that idea lol. but yeah, sounds good with everything so far, need beta testers? wink wink nudge nudge
King Coltrane
King
vbraun said:
@vbraun, thanks! thats exactly what i was looking for!
Sword_Of_Geddon
Arbiter of the Sword
I don't know about BETA testing...I'm not sure how that works exactly.... 
King Coltrane
King
(meaning release it early to us so we can help test it)
Sword_Of_Geddon
Arbiter of the Sword
I suppose I could do that, basically upload it and give you and Tjedge or something the download link(but nobody else).
I'm beginning to miss Civ3 big time...so soon I shall begin implementing the changes...but first I need the new Biq from Tjedge.
I'm beginning to miss Civ3 big time...so soon I shall begin implementing the changes...but first I need the new Biq from Tjedge.
tjedge1
Writer of writerly things
Sorry for the delay. I've had my hands full lately, but I'll try to elbow my work over and get that done. I'll send you the new tech boxes as well, when I send the biq. I'll try to get it done before the weekend or Sunday night at the latest.
Work, I mean as in, I got 2 new testers for my mod, and they aparently have lots of playing time. They have kept me quite busy, but we just made a breakthrough, so my free time is returning just enough to do this.
I will get right on this then, sir!
Work, I mean as in, I got 2 new testers for my mod, and they aparently have lots of playing time. They have kept me quite busy, but we just made a breakthrough, so my free time is returning just enough to do this.
I will get right on this then, sir!
Sword_Of_Geddon
Arbiter of the Sword
Thanks again for helping out on this... 
King Coltrane
King
that all sounds good. anything else i can do to help in the meantime?
