Kan' Sharuminar said:
That map does match the one for RTR on wikipedia, maybe everyone is running different versions.
Heart of the Republic - A Rome: Total War AAR
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That map does match the one for RTR on wikipedia, maybe everyone is running different versions.
Maniacal
the green Napoleon
Advance on Greece!
Dell19 said:
On closer inspection Kan's map says 5.2 I think... not sure if thats current.
steviejay
Now in Black and White!!
Moving on Greece simply opens up more fronts from which we can be attacked on. if we are going to attack someone else then we MUST close a front down. a tree which grows too many branches will be trimmed no?
If we attack Greece then two things could happen. Either A) we go by sea, take the Greek cities but then those cities are cut off from the rest of the empire by the Adriatic, the Macedonians and the Illyrians. or B) we carve a land path to the Greek cities which results in declaring war on one of the other Balkan nations, and if we attack one, the other will declare on us as we'll be busy in Greece.
I say Sicilia
If we attack Greece then two things could happen. Either A) we go by sea, take the Greek cities but then those cities are cut off from the rest of the empire by the Adriatic, the Macedonians and the Illyrians. or B) we carve a land path to the Greek cities which results in declaring war on one of the other Balkan nations, and if we attack one, the other will declare on us as we'll be busy in Greece.
I say Sicilia
Maniacal
the green Napoleon
Yes, you have a point stevejay, Siciliia it is then!
steviejay
Now in Black and White!!
I was meaning more the Macedonians. I approached the Soothsayer about this subject and it appears that when this mythical figure was commanding the Romans, they do, saw the advantages of a Romanised Greece and set about invading, using Illyrians to pave a way through, it seems that once the Illyrians were almost conquered the Macedonian dogs attacked the supply lines with force. Around this time the Carthaginian attacked out of Sicilia. Unfortunately the dog's liver could not shed light on what happened next but it did seem that Roman forces were greatly stretched, fighting in Gaul, Northern Italy, Illyria and Southern Italy.Roman soldiers are brave and fight true, but the Macedonians command spears as if part of their arms and the the Carthaginians possess beast of such vigor that not even the Gods could stand in their way
steviejay
Now in Black and White!!
On a more serious note, as stated above I'm fighting everywhere but it does seem good for me, the north is a right mess, the Illyrians have only two cities but they can raise armies in no time where as the Macedonians only really hve one army but it's huge and moving about with purpose. Down in the South it's alot better, I have a powerful army guarding the straights to Sicilia and I've just wiped out an entire Carthaginian army, but there are still two more.... it's now a race, getting fresh reinforcements to the city before the Carthaginians realise the state of the place and move another army in
Kan' Sharuminar
Fluffy
Looking at the situation, I would agree with an attack on Sicily rather than the peninsula. Realistically, we would have to capture Appolonia quickly in order to put ourselves in a better defensive position. There are a lot of Greek forces outside the city, it will make it difficult to push out beyond the beachhead.
Sicily is similarly well defended. This could become less of a war of conquest and more of a raiding campaign. Move in, destroy and pillage what we can, then get out. It truly depends on how well the battles go. As Carthage is at war with Greece, how about we take steps towards a formal peace treaty - maps and trade rights - or to go so far as an alliance? I can't foresee any reason why the Republic would want to go to war with Carthage
Sicily is similarly well defended. This could become less of a war of conquest and more of a raiding campaign. Move in, destroy and pillage what we can, then get out. It truly depends on how well the battles go. As Carthage is at war with Greece, how about we take steps towards a formal peace treaty - maps and trade rights - or to go so far as an alliance? I can't foresee any reason why the Republic would want to go to war with Carthage
Captain2
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well the rest of gaul still stands, it makes more sense to finish one enemy off before begining another
Maniacal
the green Napoleon
Gaul is weak, they won't amount to anything our army there cannot defeat. We have 4 cities we just need a general to be posted there.
Raisin Bran
Cereal Killer
Kan' Sharuminar said:Looking at the situation, I would agree with an attack on Sicily rather than the peninsula. Realistically, we would have to capture Appolonia quickly in order to put ourselves in a better defensive position. There are a lot of Greek forces outside the city, it will make it difficult to push out beyond the beachhead.
Sicily is similarly well defended. This could become less of a war of conquest and more of a raiding campaign. Move in, destroy and pillage what we can, then get out. It truly depends on how well the battles go. As Carthage is at war with Greece, how about we take steps towards a formal peace treaty - maps and trade rights - or to go so far as an alliance? I can't foresee any reason why the Republic would want to go to war with Carthage
Then We go to sicilly and we destroy the Greeks there.
Im all in favor of negociating peace with the carthage until we dont need it anymore.
For god's sake let's get rid of those damn Greeks!!!!!
nodikus
It's Elementary...
If we need to go to war with carthage we can find an excuse later, so I say make peace with them.
Kan' Sharuminar
Fluffy
Heart of the Republic - A Rome: Total War AAR
Part Sixteen
With PrinceScampeys death, the Senate suddenly had the ability to end the Gallic War - which though it had seen tremendous success, was extending the Republics forces away from the more desirable (and chaotic) Carthage-Greek wars. By 250 BC not much had changed in the south, though Sicily remained a dangerous battlefield for both sides, though no city had fallen since the start of the war twelve years earlier.
Carthage and her elephants - a unit still feared by the Romans
With this in mind, the Senate quickly agreed that war with Greece was in the Republics best interests, and this news brought joy to the Generals Tillus and Clericus, who were selected as the obvious leaders of a campaign. But where would the battles be fought?
The idea of waging war on the Greek peninsula itself came up in early Senate discussions. The city of Apollonia was discovered to be poorly defended, and a spy sent in 248 BC confirmed this. However it was discovered that the surrounding region was not so weakly fortified, and if a foothold was secured in the city it would be exceptionally difficult to break out. A year later, however, Macedonia signed an alliance with Carthage, confirming their desire to continue war against Greece. Not only did this mean the Greeks would be distracted on the peninsula without Republic intervention, but it brought up the idea of an alliance with Carthage.
Until now, the Carthaginians had been a relatively minor nation of note to the Roman Senate, especially since the Republic had been so focused on the north. Now however, questions began to be raised as to why diplomatic relations hadnt been improved with a people (no matter how strange or mysterious, after all the Republic did maintain trade and relations with nations such as Germania and Scythia) who were actively fighting one of the Republics enemies. As such, an ambassador for Rome was sent to Sicily to invite Carthaginian representatives to a great Council at Tarentum - which would also include the Macedonians - to discuss the prospect of a full military alliance.
At this time, the Republic was fully set for war against the Greeks. Though Gaul still refused a cease-fire, the city of Comata had fallen and a defensive border was being fortified against any Gallic incursions. This was supported by the old Intelligence Network developed by PrinceScampey, who began rooting out enemy spies in southern Gaul (turning out a surprising amount of Iberian agents) and the construction of watchtowers.
For Greece itself, the Republic Navy was sent to sea to patrol the region between Sicily and the Greek peninsula, and General Tillus IIs army was completed and prepared for departure. The military cities of the Republic - those down the south-west coast of Italy - began mobilising for a continued war by beginning the training of reinforcements. The Republic took its wars seriously.
In 247 BC then, the Council of Tarentum convened. Here, the details of the coming war were settled between the three parties. Macedonia was to continue fighting on the peninsula, drawing Greek reserves away from the war in Sicily. Carthage and the Republic were to fight on Sicily, with the Roman Army to early the next year. The Carthaginian Navy already blockaded the enemy ports, and would be covered in the Mediterranean by the Roman fleet. Trade rights were agreed to, and the deal was sealed by a small offer of financial aid from the Romans to assist the Carthaginian troops. The Council had been a tremendous success, and in 246 BC Tillus IIs armies established a beachhead on Sicily. The Second Greek-Roman War had begun
Part Sixteen
With PrinceScampeys death, the Senate suddenly had the ability to end the Gallic War - which though it had seen tremendous success, was extending the Republics forces away from the more desirable (and chaotic) Carthage-Greek wars. By 250 BC not much had changed in the south, though Sicily remained a dangerous battlefield for both sides, though no city had fallen since the start of the war twelve years earlier.
Carthage and her elephants - a unit still feared by the Romans
With this in mind, the Senate quickly agreed that war with Greece was in the Republics best interests, and this news brought joy to the Generals Tillus and Clericus, who were selected as the obvious leaders of a campaign. But where would the battles be fought?
The idea of waging war on the Greek peninsula itself came up in early Senate discussions. The city of Apollonia was discovered to be poorly defended, and a spy sent in 248 BC confirmed this. However it was discovered that the surrounding region was not so weakly fortified, and if a foothold was secured in the city it would be exceptionally difficult to break out. A year later, however, Macedonia signed an alliance with Carthage, confirming their desire to continue war against Greece. Not only did this mean the Greeks would be distracted on the peninsula without Republic intervention, but it brought up the idea of an alliance with Carthage.
Until now, the Carthaginians had been a relatively minor nation of note to the Roman Senate, especially since the Republic had been so focused on the north. Now however, questions began to be raised as to why diplomatic relations hadnt been improved with a people (no matter how strange or mysterious, after all the Republic did maintain trade and relations with nations such as Germania and Scythia) who were actively fighting one of the Republics enemies. As such, an ambassador for Rome was sent to Sicily to invite Carthaginian representatives to a great Council at Tarentum - which would also include the Macedonians - to discuss the prospect of a full military alliance.
At this time, the Republic was fully set for war against the Greeks. Though Gaul still refused a cease-fire, the city of Comata had fallen and a defensive border was being fortified against any Gallic incursions. This was supported by the old Intelligence Network developed by PrinceScampey, who began rooting out enemy spies in southern Gaul (turning out a surprising amount of Iberian agents) and the construction of watchtowers.
For Greece itself, the Republic Navy was sent to sea to patrol the region between Sicily and the Greek peninsula, and General Tillus IIs army was completed and prepared for departure. The military cities of the Republic - those down the south-west coast of Italy - began mobilising for a continued war by beginning the training of reinforcements. The Republic took its wars seriously.
In 247 BC then, the Council of Tarentum convened. Here, the details of the coming war were settled between the three parties. Macedonia was to continue fighting on the peninsula, drawing Greek reserves away from the war in Sicily. Carthage and the Republic were to fight on Sicily, with the Roman Army to early the next year. The Carthaginian Navy already blockaded the enemy ports, and would be covered in the Mediterranean by the Roman fleet. Trade rights were agreed to, and the deal was sealed by a small offer of financial aid from the Romans to assist the Carthaginian troops. The Council had been a tremendous success, and in 246 BC Tillus IIs armies established a beachhead on Sicily. The Second Greek-Roman War had begun
Kozmos
Jew Detective
HoooraY!!!!!
Raisin Bran
Cereal Killer
Cleric said:
Yeah Hooooray !!!!!
The senate told me my Ideas were ridiculous when I told the senate to invade Sicilly, but now magically we are going exactly as I planned.
I won't be silenced by the senate!!!!!!! ... My wine drinking habits are not a reason not to listen to MY brilliant Ideas.
I would like to ask the senate to officially name the island "Sicily". Anyone caught calling it Sicilia will be crucified on the spot!
Captain2
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boo!Cleric said:
on another note, captainus defies anything besides Sicilia
SuperBeaverInc.
Groucho
Time to show those Greeks that our silly walks are superior to theirs!
Captain2
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might i request the northern front be allowed to advance with whatever troops still exist up there? I havent been doing much for someone who came out of retirement...
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