Hindus And Cows!

[riot_girl]

How come when your civ has the hindu religion you can still draw resource points from cows. Thats sort of annoying. I really like having religion, but i tihnk they should do a bit more. Mabye give a negative and a positive effect.

Examples.

Hindu: You can open a Quicky Mart in your towns.
Christianty: Your can draw forth the minght of pat robertson to assinate forigen leaders.
Taoism: You can paint super cool ying yangs all over the place.
Islam: You can transport units in the missionarys beard.
Judism: Your can gain acess to the rare accountant unit.
Buddhism: fat people get +1 happy face.
Confucism: You get the ablity to trade mark "Confucious say..."


No one be offended learn to laugh.

 

[Sorceresss]

How come when your civ has the hindu religion you can still draw resource points from cows [?...] No one be offended learn to laugh.

You're a real riot!

 

[nekom]

Why be offended? You've offended everyone equally

Transporting units in the missionaries beard has my vote for the funniest though.

 

[Seanirl]

Stereotyping Jews is tehhh-weble... ah South Park.

 

[oagersnap]

Those examples were funny
Anyway, even though hindus don't kill the cows, they still drink milk.

 

[Sorceresss]

Stereotyping Jews is tehhh-weble... ah South Park.

I do not understand this alien dialect you are using.

 

[Psycho Mantis]

I was sort of dissapointed you couldnt get the Jehovahs Witness religion in Civ4. I was hoping for the ability to have your units wander through other civs territory completely uninvited, irritating the general populace.

 

[Doomed_UK]

or Morman (spelling) for fast population growth.....

(thinks this thread ought to stop before someone gets insulted)

 

[Sorceresss]

(thinks this thread ought to stop before someone gets insulted)

Yesss...Introducing the term "Jews" in this thread was "delicate", to say the least.

 

[Mercade]

How come when your civ has the hindu religion you can still draw resource points from cows. Thats sort of annoying. I really like having religion, but i tihnk they should do a bit more. Mabye give a negative and a positive effect.

Just to state the obvious, Firaxis made it very clear in its documentation (Page 77 of the manual) that they elected to give all religions the same properties so as to avoid any position and debate on what is better, worse, or different.

 

[The Condor]

I loved it. I liked both the Buddhism remark and the Confucian remark the best.

 

[Sorceresss]

THxxx for your reproduction of Firaxis' position on the matter.

May I persist in stating that setting up Buddhism to be the very first "religion" to be discovered in 4000 BC ( ) was lazy research & design ?

 

[Fredric Drum]

Because it's not a historically correct game. The world of Civ is what you make it to be. Would be boring to play a game where everything was predetermined.

 

[Sorceresss]

[1] The world of Civ is what you make it to be. [2] Would be boring to play a game where everything was predetermined.

False & false.

1) Since Buddhism most always appears as the very first "religion", the world of Civ is certainly not "what make it to be".

2) As it is, one can find the situation very boring & predetermined : Buddhism is almost always the first "religion" to be discovered.

 

[The Condor]

False & false.

1) Since Buddhism most always appears as the very first "religion", the world of Civ is certainly not "what make it to be".

2) As it is, one can find the situation very boring & predetermined : Buddhism is almost always the first "religion" to be discovered.

Not in my games. Hinduism is almost always founded first by me on noble. Since I am Saladin I get mystiscm (sp?) first allowing me to make a run for Hinduism while everyone else goes for Buddhism. Also, I always play with eighteen civs so it is not like I just played a game with no spiritual people against me. Also, I would love to see a negative and positive religion model. Maybe the Confucian one could give you one extra commerce per thing confucius says. However Confucius would have to say things randomly on his own to keep it from being exploited.

 

[Major Tom]

How come when your civ has the islam religion you can still draw resource points from wine?

 

[Mercade]

THxxx for your reproduction of Firaxis' position on the matter.

May I persist in stating that setting up Buddhism to be the very first "religion" to be discovered in 4000 BC ( ) was lazy research & design ?

You pay persist, although you cannot really persist in something that you haven't stated before

I'm not saying I agree per se with Firaxis' position to model all religions as being identical (although I surely understand why they chose to do so). Since the riot girl asked "how come" (read: why) the quote of why Firaxis designed it the way they designed it, seems appropriate.

 

[Mercade]

2) As it is, one can find the situation very boring & predetermined : Buddhism is almost always the first "religion" to be discovered.

How about we randomise which religion you discover with a certain tech? Perhaps it can be modded so that the religion you get from founding a technology is random? Would that make it less boring for you?

 

[Arvedui]

Because it's not a historically correct game. The world of Civ is what you make it to be. Would be boring to play a game where everything was predetermined.

There's a big difference between the game being predetermined and buddhism always being founded around 3500 BC. I agree that it was lazy research and design. Maybe it's because it doesn't bother the people who are not familiar with buddhism, which is probably the majority of people...

 

[BeefontheBone]

So that bothers you, but launching a colony ship to colonise Alpha Centauri in 1982 after having constructed a space elevator is fine? Christianity being founded in 1000 BC is fine? There's no reason why Buddhist principles couldn't have been adopted in 3500 BC by someone, just because they didn't in history. Feel free to rename the religions to Religion A, B, C, etc. or "Arveduism", "Humperdinkism" etc if you like.