HoF Map Finder/Generator Utility 2016-10-05

[Own]

Thanks Moonsinger .

 

[Jolinar Vaughn]

I've found 2cp and I bought a new brain. I found myself what I was looking for.

This tool is great

 

[berserks01]

This may have been answered before, but this thread is just TOOOOO long for me to go through the entire thing , but can someone tell me EXACTLY how to set the rule so that I store games with at least 1 wheat/cow next to a river with a dom limit >4000?

Thanks

 

[EMan]

AND Dom Limit > 4000
AND River > 0
OR Cow > 0
OR Wheat > 0

ALL "AND" conditions and at least ONE "OR" condition must be true for the Map to be accepted.

(See Post #551 on Page 28.)

I don't believe you can guarantee the Cow/Wheat is next to a River but there will be at least one river-adjacent square in the visible starting position.

 

[berserks01]

Hmmm.... I set mine up like this, but I'm seeing all maps with wheat/cow and next to river skipped . Do you see anything wrong here?

 

[EMan]

The only thing I can see of significance is that you are limiting your Acceptable Maps to those containing EXACTLY One River square.

AND River > 0............ might yield more Maps.

(viz. Currently you will reject Maps with 2 or more River squares!)

 

[Denniz]

Hey Moonsinger, would you mind publishing the file layout of the "Set" file created by Mapfinder. I would like to try something with all those map statistics.

Of course, if you wanted to add a "copy to clipboard" option to MapReport, I wouldn't object.

 

[Moonsinger]

Hey Moonsinger, would you mind publishing the file layout of the "Set" file created by Mapfinder. I would like to try something with all those map statistics.

No problem! Here is the delphi data structure of the *.set file:

  TRunData = record
    CurShieldGrass: Integer;  //total number of bonus grasslands for current map
    CurGoodyHut   : Integer;  //total number of visible goodyhut found for current map

    CurCattle  : Integer;
    CurFish    : Integer;
    CurGame    : Integer;
    CurGold    : Integer;
    CurOasis   : Integer;
    CurSugar   : Integer;
    CurTobacco : Integer;
    CurFruit   : Integer;
    CurWheat   : Integer;

    CurDyes    : Integer;
    CurFurs    : Integer;
    CurGems    : Integer;
    CurIncense : Integer;
    CurIvory   : Integer;
    CurSilks   : Integer;
    CurSpices  : Integer;
    CurWines   : Integer;

    CurGrassland  : Integer;
    CurFloodplain : Integer;
    CurPlain      : Integer;
    CurForest     : Integer;
    CurHill       : Integer;
    CurJungle     : Integer;
    CurDesert     : Integer;
    CurTundra     : Integer;
    CurMountain   : Integer;
    CurCoastal    : Integer;
    CurMarsh      : Integer;

    CurFreshWater : Integer;
    CurRiver      : Integer;
    CurDomLimit   : Integer;
    VisbleTile    : Integer; //number of visible tile

    CurFoodBonus  : Integer;
    CurLuxury     : Integer;

    CurGetFood    : Integer;
    CurGetGold    : Integer;
    CurGetShield  : Integer;
    CurGetFoodBase   : Integer;
    CurGetGoldBase   : Integer;
    CurGetShieldBase : Integer;

    CurCattleOnGrass: Integer;
    CurCattleOnPlain: Integer;
    CurWheatOnFloodPlain : Integer;
    CurDeerOnForest      : Integer;
    Cur5FoodCount        : Integer;

    CurWineOnHill        : Integer;
    CurDeerOnMarsh       : Integer;
    CurFishOnMarsh       : Integer;
    CurForestOnGrassland : Integer;
    CurForestOnPlain     : Integer;

    IterationId    : Integer;   //current iteration id
    dDateGenerated : TDateTime; //actual date time when this map is generated

    ListOfRule  : array[0..1023] of char; //list of rules apply for current map
  end;

For example, CurCattle is really the total number of visible cattles for the current map. At the moment, each *.set file contents exactly one TRunData record.

Of course, if you wanted to add a "copy to clipboard" option to MapReport, I wouldn't object.

Well, that really depends on how often are you planning to use the clipboard?

 

[Moonsinger]

Hmmm.... I set mine up like this, but I'm seeing all maps with wheat/cow and next to river skipped . Do you see anything wrong here?

Exactly like what Eman has explained! Thanks Eman! Also according to your rule, you were looking also for maps with a domination limit of at least 4000; therefore, MapFinder would skip any map with a domination limit of 4000 or less no matter how many wheats/cows/river were visible on the map.

 

[gmaharriet]

A further comment on what Eman and Moonsinger said...

If you use river=1, remember that a river usually has 2 sides on most maps. The "1" means number of tiles bordering a river...not the number of separate rivers.

I set mine at river >2, because I want a longer river, and a river that runs a distance of 3 tiles most likely means river=6, 4 tiles =8, etc.

 

[EMan]

Good Point gma!

Multiple River Squares are very useful in the Early Game. (viz. Extra Commerce & River-Adjacent Cities can grow to size 12 without needing an Aqueduct.)

 

[Jolinar Vaughn]

I've set my rules this way:
AND River > 2
AND Coast > 0
AND Bonus on grassland > 2
AND cattle > 0
AND Ivory > 0


I know it can be a difficult question but how many days or weeks do you think I'll need to wait for at least get one elligible map?

 

[Moonsinger]

I've set my rules this way:
AND River > 2
AND Coast > 0
AND Bonus on grassland > 2
AND cattle > 0
AND Ivory > 0


I now it can be a difficult question but how many days or week do you think I'll need to wait for at least get one elligible map?

I would recommend River > 0. Keep in mind that a river run may run through many non-visible tiles. Just because it ends at the starting position, that doesn't mean that it's a short river. The chance for getting ivory and a cow with visible coast line at the starting position is very rare; I have never run into such a map, but may be you will get luckly, who know.

 

[Ciceronian]

I was trying to use Mapfinder for C3C but it wouldn't work. I started a game and then started Mapfinder at 4000 BC, and it created a new map but then abruptly displayed the following error message:

Access violation at address OOCF345E in module 'SAVUtils.DLL'. Write of address 03DDA26C.

Could anyone please help me or tell me what I'm doing wrong? Thanks.

 

[Own]

Did you create a shortcut somewhere for mapfinder and use that? I had that problem.

 

[Ciceronian]

Yes, I did actually. Do you think that would be the problem?

 

[Own]

Yes, go to the original link

DLL is domination limit, and near the original mapfinder thing is something that has to do with that, and it will tell you that when you start it. Does the domination limit always say highes 0 and lowest 999999?

 

[Ciceronian]

When I start Mapfinder from the explorer it doesn't make a difference, I get the same error message.

 

[Dianthus]

@Ciceronian: Are you using the latest patch of C3C (1.22)? SAVUtils.dll *should* cope with older versions OK, but it's been used mostly with the latest version as that's what's required for the HOF. EMail me a .sav file or post one here and I'll take a look.

 

[Own]

Is this a valid rule?

Domination Limit > 4300
And River > 0
And Cow on Grassland > 0

Or do I need an "And" in front of domination limit?