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HOF Questions and Answers Thread

Discussion in 'Civ4 - Hall of Fame Discussion' started by Methos, Mar 25, 2007.

  1. Methos

    Methos HoF Quattromaster Super Moderator Hall of Fame Staff

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    This thread is meant to cover any questions regarding the Hall of Fame that don't need its own specific thread. Thanks!
     
  2. ori

    ori Repair Guy Super Moderator

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  3. Methos

    Methos HoF Quattromaster Super Moderator Hall of Fame Staff

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    :lol: Spent more time on making sure everything else was correct, totally missed the simple and obvious! :D
     
  4. superslug

    superslug Still hatin' on Khan Moderator Hall of Fame Staff

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    I hold some fault on that as well, since I forgot to tell you I was going to make this one the official thread...:D
     
  5. Harbourboy

    Harbourboy Chieftain

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    OK - I have a question. What is the minimum number of games that would be required to be submitted to cover off all the conditions to become a Quattromaster?
     
  6. Ozbenno

    Ozbenno Fly Fly Away Moderator Hall of Fame Staff

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    18 games would do it, as 18 different civilizations, making sure you got every map type, speed, victory condition, difficulty and the two gauntlets covered in those 18 games.
     
  7. Methos

    Methos HoF Quattromaster Super Moderator Hall of Fame Staff

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    As you all probably noticed there have been several questions raised lately in the forums regarding how the HoF works. Unfortunately many of these questions are either hard to locate the answers to, either in the forums or on the site, or can't be located at all. I'm working on this being the place for everyone to answer those questions. The problem is, both RL responsibilities and playing [civ4] is getting in the way. I'm hoping that many of you can help me out in expanding on the above FAQ.

    Basically what I'm wanting is for those of you interested to ask/answer questions that you feel could be added to the above list. Please state your suggestions in something easy to figure out, such as:

    Question: What does HoF mean?

    Answer: HoF is an acronym that is used that refers to the Hall of Fame.

    Disclaimer: Please note, any suggestions given does not mean that I will include them in the FAQ. If I do include them realize that they may be inserted into the FAQ worded differently than you have stated. Thank you.
     
  8. Methos

    Methos HoF Quattromaster Super Moderator Hall of Fame Staff

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    Questions relating to the HoF Mod and the included mods have been added to the FAQ. Unfortunately I still need to complete the descriptions for the Exotic Foreign Advisor, Domestic Advisor, and MapFinder. Format has been changed to make things easier to locate. Items are now put into sections.

    I have also included:

    Who are the HoF Staff and how do I contact them?

    Jump to top of page
     
  9. KMadCandy

    KMadCandy giggling permanoob

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    Question, since i only noticed the april 13th post when i read the new april 30th post today: How would you like to receive such suggestions?

    Potential Answers: Here in this thread. Perhaps by email. Maybe in another thread created for this purpose to not clutter up this thread or your mailbox.

    Disclaimer: I can't read Methos's mind, and do not know his tolerance for clutter ;)
     
  10. Methos

    Methos HoF Quattromaster Super Moderator Hall of Fame Staff

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    This thread is fine, unless you prefer to email or PM me. By posting in this thread it allows others to expand on the suggestions and/or questions.
     
  11. Methos

    Methos HoF Quattromaster Super Moderator Hall of Fame Staff

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    The FAQ has been updated with this information in reference to MapFinder:

    <Jump to the FAQ>
     
  12. Methos

    Methos HoF Quattromaster Super Moderator Hall of Fame Staff

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    QScore is derived from BaseQScore, which takes into account the average date of the best dates from each player. The fastest date receives a BaseQScore of 100 and the average date receives a 50. The problem is when a table consists of only two dates.

    Take for instance a ficticious table where we have two submissions.
    • Player X: 1900 AD
    • Player Y: 1902 AD

    The average between those two dates would be 1901 AD. Therefore, even though the two submissions are only 1 turn apart (two years), the BaseQScore each submission would get would be:
    • 1900 AD = 100 points
    • 1902 AD = 10 points

    It doesn't matter if player X or Y submits a worse game, as those games wouldn't be taken into account for BaseQScore. You'd have to have another player submit a game to affect BaseQScore.
     
  13. Airny

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    You didn't really cheer me up Methos.

    I guess that 10 points are also the absolut minimum I would get.
    So it wouldn't matter how good my game is. In your example, someone submitting a 2000AD game would still get 10 points, correct?
     
  14. Methos

    Methos HoF Quattromaster Super Moderator Hall of Fame Staff

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    No, as the parameters used in compiling the BaseQScore would now change. Let me explain. Previously we had this:
    • Player X: 1900 AD
    • Player Y: 1902 AD

    Therefore the average between the two would be 1901 AD. So player x (1900 AD) would earn 100 points and player y (1902 AD) would earn 10 points. Now let's include your 2000 AD submitted by a third player:
    • Player X: 1900 AD
    • Player Y: 1902 AD
    • Player Z: 2000 AD

    Since we have three players with three best dates the average is no longer 1901 AD. The new average is now (1900 + 1902 + 2000)/3, or 1934. Player Y's date of 1902 is above the average date and is now probably sitting somewhere in the 90's. Since the average date is 1934 (50 points), the date that would earn 10 points would not be the 2000 AD, instead it would be 1968. This means player z with his 2000 AD date would earn less than ten points. Does that make more sense? Basically for every submission made by a player who hasn't yet submitted to that specific table the average date will change.

    When there are only two submissions to a table the BaseQScore earned by both players will either be 100 or 10, no matter how close or far apart their dates are.
     
  15. Thrallia

    Thrallia Prodigal Staffer GOTM Staff

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    got it...so the 10 points spot is the date that is exactly as far behind the average date as the fastest date is ahead of the average?

    anything farther behind the average than the fastest is ahead of the average gets less than 10 points, and anything between the average and the fastest gets between 50 and 100 points...is that correct?
     
  16. Methos

    Methos HoF Quattromaster Super Moderator Hall of Fame Staff

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    Correct.

    Correct.

    Maybe this will help...



    The above graph is the formula that is used in compiling BaseQScore. As you can see the fastest date would receive 100, the average date (darker line down the middle) coincides with the graph at 50 points. 10 points is the exact distance same distance as 100 points is from 50 points. The farthest point to the right is exactly twice the distance as is between 100 points and 50 points.
     
  17. dutchfire

    dutchfire Moderator Moderator

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    By any chance, do you know the exact mathematical formula? Just interested :D
     
  18. Methos

    Methos HoF Quattromaster Super Moderator Hall of Fame Staff

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    Yes, I do. ;)
     
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    Thank you for submitting Dystopian BC-0275.CivWarlordsSave.
    Submitted: 2007-06-02 10:47:32

    You may verify that your submission was received by checking the submission list.
     
  20. Denniz

    Denniz Where's my breakfast? Moderator Hall of Fame Staff

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    Yeah, I noticed the problem a little while ago. Please hold on to your submission. We'll let you know when it is safe to try again. Thanks.
     

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