How America can solve its top three problems

[punkbass2000]

I am somewhat favor that "Laws and Institutions" create the culture in which people inhabit and that asking people to volunteer that to "curb its appetite" is impractical.

Sometimes, however, it gets curbed for them in rather unpleasant manners which could have been avoided had they done so themselves first.

 

[CartesianFart]

The thing is,that as long as laws and institutions that prevent a particular behavior such as illegal drugs(cocaine and other narcotics) is the very fact that supply is still not deterred and that what give people the impression that the existing laws and institutions to enforce it are not working.

 

[Ayatollah So]

What FugitivSisy said.

On immigration, I'd be happier with lifting the quotas on legal immigration, rather than keeping the laws as they are. The harm done to would-be immigrants by existing laws outweighs, in my mind, the (mixed bag, anyway) harm to already-resident Americans from letting them in. Besides, if the ultra-nativists had had their way, my ancestors never would have made it here in the first place.

 

[Bozo Erectus]

Not really, Warpus' implied solutions don't require curbing consumption.

Do you mean this post from Warpus?

No, it's a result of 2 things:

1) Mexicans realizing that it's way easier to live & work in the states illegally than to do so through legal channels.
2) Employers who employ illegal immigrants aren't prosecuted

The answers are right there in front of you guys. But of course somebody has to do jobs Americans don't want to do.. so the illegal immigrants will stay.

I dont have a problem with the analysis, but whatever the solution turns out to be, it would involve curbing our appetite for slave labor, or as close to slavery as we allow ourselves to get in the 21st century. Its an inescapable outcome, no way to avoid it, regardless of the specific solution offered. Thats why the suggested solutions are never implemented, or watered down to the point that its the same as doing nothing.

 

[Leonel]

But meth is a hellova drug! It's the only thing that calms my nerves whenever I'm around those darn Mexicans while I siphon gasoline from their cars!

 

[Tank_Guy#3]

Top three problems that immediately came to mind:

Bush
Cheney
Somebody else in the Executive branch I don't like


Dude, I just gained 4 pounds this week, because of Cold Stone Creamery. Do you have any idea how good that stuff is?

[Sarcasm]You can imagine my surprise at this answer... [Sarcasm off]

I have a solution to solve the illegal immigration problem, but all the liberals would go crying to whoever will listen if I said it.

Oil: We need to get working on hydrogen.

Drugs: Increase all the penalties and lower the requirements (i.e. substance amount) for an arrest. Double all of the penalites for future arrests.

Arrested once for drugs, fine them $25,000, second time fine them $50,000. (Or whatever amount would best apply, a street dealer or drug lord would be charged far more, and don't accept drug money, take their assets).

 

[Perfection]

I dont have a problem with the analysis, but whatever the solution turns out to be, it would involve curbing our appetite for slave labor, or as close to slavery as we allow ourselves to get in the 21st century.

Mexican Illegal immegrants by and aren't anything like slave labor and it's silly to consider them so. The get paid about as much as I did last summer.

Its an inescapable outcome, no way to avoid it, regardless of the specific solution offered. Thats why the suggested solutions are never implemented, or watered down to the point that its the same as doing nothing.

No, the solution (making legal immegration easier and prosecuting those who hire illegals) hasn't been implemente because congress is a bunch of partisan hacks.

 

[CartesianFart]

Drugs: Increase all the penalties and lower the requirements (i.e. substance amount) for an arrest. Double all of the penalites for future arrests.

Arrested once for drugs, fine them $25,000, second time fine them $50,000. (Or whatever amount would best apply, a street dealer or drug lord would be charged far more, and don't accept drug money, take their assets).

You know that it will increase the capacity for more inmates to be incarcerated?This is a robust plan that can be easlily remedied by denying supply(more border personell and manpower)and create more and better education for the poor,who usually are the ones that sells and uses it.

 

[Gaius Octavius]

On oil, I agree with Tank Guy. I think hydrogen fuel cells have the best potential to actually replace fossil fuels entirely. Methanol/ethanol are just plain ridiculous. We cannot possibly grow enough of that to make any real difference, and for every acre we use to grow fuel that's an acre less of food. It's just a stop-gap measure.

About drugs, I don't really know what to do. Stiffer penalties are a good start though.

On illegal immigration, and this "willing worker / willing employee" stuff, I have just one thing to say to you: Visigoths, the Danubian borders, 376 AD -> Adrianople. Google it.

 

[punkbass2000]

Mexican Illegal immegrants by and aren't anything like slave labor and it's silly to consider them so. The get paid about as much as I did last summer.

Well, some do. But, of course, it's unregulated, so some make more (and don't pay tax), while some make much less.

And, of course, outside of illegal immigration, there is a huge market for what is essentially slave labour.

 

[JollyRoger]

On illegal immigration, and this "willing worker / willing employee" stuff, I have just one thing to say to you: Visigoths, the Danubian borders, 376 AD -> Adrianople. Google it.

And Remember the Alamo

 

[Perfection]

Well, some do. But, of course, it's unregulated, so some make more (and don't pay tax), while some make much less.

most make ~minimum wage or higher.

 

[CartesianFart]

True,especially in construction and the transportation of goods.

 

[Gaius Octavius]

And Remember the Alamo

My point was that when you start letting masses of people come over your borders unchecked, and you mistreat them (in this case, low wages, etc.) or there is no assimilation, it's only a matter of time until they begin to act effectively as an independent force. Read: social turmoil.

 

[punkbass2000]

Do you have a link for that? I would think it would be fairly difficult to determine the average income of an illegal workforce accurately, though I await humility.

 

[aimeeandbeatles]

Global warming

It's getting worse. All the grade 9's (my grade) in the school went to this... not sure what it's called, it's a speech I guess... by Dr. David Suzuki and he said if we don't do something about it, everything will get worse and worse and HUMANS MIGHT DIE!!

 

[b etor]

humans will die.

 

[Xanikk999]

Global warming

It's getting worse. All the grade 9's (my grade) in the school went to this... not sure what it's called, it's a speech I guess... by Dr. David Suzuki and he said if we don't do something about it, everything will get worse and worse and HUMANS MIGHT DIE!!

Sounds like fearmongering or your exagerrating.

Unless we go back to the preindustrial era, greenhouse gasses will not stop completely.

All we can do is lower emissions to a negligible point that it can be managed by the earth naturually (hopefully).

But even with some gasses that are emitted thats impossible.

 

[CartesianFart]

Do you have a link for that? I would think it would be fairly difficult to determine the average income of an illegal workforce accurately, though I await humility.

The only thing i can say that support this claim is my frequent visit to my cousin in Arizona who happen to live in a blue-collar community of construction worker and Truckers who are predominately Hispanic and are not legal immigrant.Most do speak Spanish and little or no English.

 

[Perfection]

Do you have a link for that? I would think it would be fairly difficult to determine the average income of an illegal workforce accurately, though I await humility.

Nope, I got this off NPR.