How to spread religion as India

[Owlbebach]

If you have a trade route, the pressure is not determined by distance

This is true for sure that pressure is not affected by distance if there is a Trade Route. However i was under impression that Traderoute just equilize pressure between cities, so that if cityA has +25 and cityB has +5 than Traderoute between them will make cityB +25 and cityA will remain the same.
Though i don't know if there were any changes to that over the past months. Changelogs do not have any changes but from time to time a brownie elf steals some entries from the changelogs...

 

[CppMaster]

I don't know what F is in this case.

It means that it's a floating point value in the size of 32 bit. Without 'f' it would be in the size of 64 bit with double precision, but it's not needed here.

 

[tu_79]

Is this iMaxDistance a fixed value? Do you tweak with it or is it dependent on map size?

As I understand the code, let's just say that iMaxDistance is 12. Then iMaxDistance/2 + 1 is 7. This means that up to 7 apparent distance (measured in steps, I guess), value is 100% original city pressure. Between 7 and 12 apparent distance the value is linearly dumped, meaning that at 7 is 100%, at 9 is 50% and at 12 and over it it is 0%.

The trade routes thing explain why capitals/holy cities are always spreading much better with their trade routes. That's where most faith is produced. It's nice to know that if I want to spread through trade routes I don't need to invest in buildings that add pressure, just increase holy city faith per turn production.

Now I'm only missing iMaxDistance value for fixing my guide.

 

[Stalker0]

Ok reading through the code a little more, I understand it more fundamentally.

You have 3 values:

1) The distance from the current city to the "next city".
2) The distance at which the pressure from that city becomes 0 (its called max distance but that's a slight misnomer, as at max its 0. So 1 less than that is the actual max distance any pressure pushes through).
3) The distance that 100% of pressure goes through. This is Max Distance / 2 + 1. That's why Iteroi used "HundredAt" for the variable name.

What I don't understand is what is the purpose of the first ElseIF statement. From what I can gather, this would only occur at max distance 2. So how can your distance ever be greater than your max distance? I'm guessing this just a safety check and not truly functional.

So now just to show some examples:

Lets say my city has a max distance of 10 (I'm not sure how max distance is calculated just yet). It generates 10 pressure. This is how much pressure it generates to a city, based on its distance away.

1-6: 10 pressure
7: 7.5
8: 5
9: 2.5
10+: 0

 

[Gazebo]

Ok reading through the code a little more, I understand it more fundamentally.

You have 3 values:

1) The distance from the current city to the "next city".
2) The distance at which the pressure from that city becomes 0 (its called max distance but that's a slight misnomer, as at max its 0. So 1 less than that is the actual max distance any pressure pushes through).
3) The distance that 100% of pressure goes through. This is Max Distance / 2 + 1. That's why Iteroi used "HundredAt" for the variable name.

What I don't understand is what is the purpose of the first ElseIF statement. From what I can gather, this would only occur at max distance 2. So how can your distance ever be greater than your max distance? I'm guessing this just a safety check and not truly functional.

So now just to show some examples:

Lets say my city has a max distance of 10 (I'm not sure how max distance is calculated just yet). It generates 10 pressure. This is how much pressure it generates to a city, based on its distance away.

1-6: 10 pressure
7: 7.5
8: 5
9: 2.5
10+: 0

That’s pretty much right. Note that I only pasted the part of the function that fires if you do NOT have a trade route - this is the natural spread part of it.

G

 

[CrazyG]

So trade routes determine their pressure based off of faith? That is important to know

 

[Owlbebach]

1) The distance from the current city to the "next city".
2) The distance at which the pressure from that city becomes 0 (its called max distance but that's a slight misnomer, as at max its 0. So 1 less than that is the actual max distance any pressure pushes through).
3) The distance that 100% of pressure goes through. This is Max Distance / 2 + 1. That's why Iteroi used "HundredAt" for the variable name.

That’s pretty much right.

How does Ritual works than? Does it increase Max Disstance by 20% so it is 14? And 100% Pressure will work on 8 steps then?
Trade Route between cities makes distance between them 0?

 

[tu_79]

Has anyone experience with the spreading enhancer through spies? I've updated my religion guide, but I'm missing this part:
How much pressure does a spy add?

Also, little doubt, does the number of followers in a city influece the spreading through trade routes? Or is it just the faith per turn production in the city?

 

[Stalker0]

Also, little doubt, does the number of followers in a city influece the spreading through trade routes? Or is it just the faith per turn production in the city?

From the formuals that G posted. Faith is what determines that multiplier of your religious pressure through trade routes. However, the base pressure would still come from your usual pressure sources...aka followers.

 

[tu_79]

From the formuals that G posted. Faith is what determines that multiplier of your religious pressure through trade routes. However, the base pressure would still come from your usual pressure sources...aka followers.

Ok thanks. So if I wanted to increase my pressure trough trade routes, I still need many followers in the origin city. This fits with Statecraft.