HQ1 Succession Game: For the glory of Greece (OPEN GAME)

[Harleqin]

Thrawn... welcome. You're our last player. You will go after Exsangu...something

Amazing how fast things progress after a good nights sleep. I haven't looked at the file yet, but it sounds as we're in a good position. I don't fear the Babs, but in almost every single game I've played the Japs have made a sneak attack so we'll have to be careful around them.

I agree that we should try to stay out of conflict for as long as possible and head for republic. The Babs are no threat for our hoplites yet, but the Japs will become a problem when they get their samurai, so we'll have to think ahead and keep that in mind. If possible we should also try to keep our two neighbours from getting contact with eachother leaving us as the man in the middle and the broker between them.

 

[Exsanguination]

will play soon, post tonight

 

[Exsanguination]

mmm... finished faster than i thought.

JAPAN DECLARED WAR ON US

All right, now you know. Only three things really happened during my turn:

1) Tokugawa demanded contact with the babs and i refused. he declared war. Every city should build military except Athens, who is now building the Pyramids. I whipped out everything I could on the last turn (this may be the last chance i get to to use that coveted whip). they were mostly temple, but also a couple barracks.

2) Iroquois built the worthless oracle.

3) Knossos was founded in a nice location in the middle of the Japanese territory. Defend it with your life.

When I started, i found to my dismay that we did not have masonry! Luckily I ended that problem, now we are 1 turn from Iron Working. Alright, I'm done. Have fun!

 

[Thrawn]

I've got it, can't play now, going out tonight, so will play and post tomorrow. Looks like I'll have to whip some swordsman. Should be fun, been doing that in my game.

 

[TG Cid]

I haven't looked at the actual game yet, I will in a few minutes, but from what it looks like, we might as well eliminate the Japanese if possible. That will serve two purposes (if not more, which I cannot forsee right now):

1. It will eliminate the threat of a southern invasion (or for now), and we can concentrate on blocking off the Babylonians.

2. Japan has some spices in its forests. Seizing those would be a worthy pursuit

If it can be done without huge risk or expense to our Empire, I say we crush the Japanese once and for all! Don't leave any of them standing :ripper: (except captured workers)


Oh yeah, almost forgot, remember when they attack one of our Hoplites (granted he wins---which he should), then we will enter a Golden Age. Much much sooner then I would have preferred, but it works for me. With increased production we should be able to mass-produce Swordsman and take the offensive, and if possible, secure all the Iron around us, but only hook up one to a road.

 

[Thrawn]

I prefer a late ga, so I'll try and keep them from attacking any hoplites. And I'll see how far I can get at wiping the japanese out! :die!:

 

[Harleqin]

I agree that a late golden age would be preferable, but we might not have much saying in that matter as we can't compromise our security. With three defence we should be able to take the fight to the Japs pretty soon. I too haven't looked at the game yet, but if they were that desperate for contact they must have their back to the ocean. This means that when and if we can eliminate them, then we will have the entire subcontinent to ourselves.

This is an interesting paralel to another game I'm playing. Had almost the same situation with the Japs causing an early war. Hordes of Horsemen saw me victoriuos there, so we might want to consider making other units than Swordsmen.

 

[TG Cid]

Darn Japanese....ruining our Golden Age...

Being the pacifist that I am , I would have definitely preferred to wage war during the Middle Ages...if we get Knights before the Japanese get Samurai of course. I would like even more until the arrival of Cavalry, but that's wishful thinking there .

About Horseman vs. Swordsman, I think either would work to a degree, but from past experiences, a combination of the 2 is best. By the way, don't attack the Japanese one or two units at a time, but instead forge an effective army first.

 

[Thrawn]

Here it is, good news and bad news I'm afraid. Read on to find out what that news is.

Pre-turn:Whip the archer in sparta.

650BC
-Start sparta and delphi on barracks, we need veteran troops. Corinth and pharsalos are still building archers.
-Iron Working finished, Horseback Riding started. 7 turns at a -3 deficit. Good news ,we have 2 sources of iron. One east of thermopylae, and one just outside our borders south of pharsalos. Even better news, the japanese have no iron!

630BC
-An archer attacks Knossos, our golden age begins! Bit early for my liking though. But at least our production goes up.
-Thermopylae begins building a barracks. The barracks in sparta is whipped.

610BC
-Sparta begins building archers.

590BC
-Whip barracks in thermopylae.

570Bc
-Thermopylae begins building archers.
-A hoplite arrives in Knossos. I didn't notice this was on goto for a couple of turns, next time a unit is on goto, could it please be mentioned? I don't mind goto, I'd just like to know.

550BC
-Bad news, Knossos is attacked, and razed! They must pay for this!
-New Knossos is founded on a hill near some fish. This brings the iron east of thermopylae into our territory. Now to connect it to the empire!
-Whip archers in sparta, thermopylae, and pharsalos in preparation for our revenge attack.

530BC
-Pharsalos begins a barracks.
-Horseback Riding discovered, Mathematics started. 10 turns at -3.
-The Babs found Akkad near the gems to the north of New Knossos.

510BC
-Sparta in unrest. I should have seen this coming, since I whipped earlier. They are given an entertainer.

490, 470, and 450BC
-Movement.

430BC
-A japanese spearman/settler pair enter our territory near pharsalos. What on earth are they doing??? Trying to settle during a war??
-An elite warrior attacks my 3 archer stack(which is on a mountain), we win.
-An archer attacks delphi, it dies.

410BC
-Delphi finishes its barracks, starts on hoplites for extra defense.

390BC
-More movement.

370BC
-We attack Satsuma, and are victorious! It is autorazed! We lost one regular archer, but now have 1 elite, as well as the veteran that came along.

350BC
-New Knossos begins a barracks.
-Mathematics discovered, Currency started. 14 turns at -3.
-The citizens rejoice as horses are now available empire wide! Switch production from archers to horseman.
-Diperse a barb camp up north past the babs with the isolated warrior up there.

330BC
-Kill the spearman guarding the settler, get 2 free workers.

310BC
-The babs want to swap territory maps, I agree. He is now polite, instead of cautious.

290BC
-More tedious movement.

270BC
-More rejoicing by the populace as iron is available across the empire! Lets get those japanese!!!! Start swordsman in various places.
-Upgrade a warrior to a swordsman for 40 gold.
-Whip the barracks in pharsalos.

All in all, a fairly successful turn. We now have iron, so it shouldn't be too hard to beat up those evil japanese. The next ruler has a couple of turns left of the golden age, so good luck!

 

[Thrawn]

And heres the save. Have fun!

 

[Harleqin]

Will play and post within the next couple of hour

 

[Harleqin]

Following the death of the old king Thrawn in 270 BC (who is this Christ guy anyway? And how do we know he'll be born in 270 years?) the people called out for a man to lead them in the struggle for survival against the brutal and merciless Japanese. Inspecting the stables in the southern part of the Empire the Caretaker of the Empire saw a young man who rode the beasts at reckless speed performing amazing stunts. The caretaker was so impressed that he wanted to talk to this young Greek. The youngster told the old man about the many uses these horses had, including in wartime. The two spoke for many hours and in the end it was decided that this young one showed enough intelligence to become the next leader of the Greeks. Taking the name of Alexanderqin the Second in honor of the founder of the nation he was proclaimed Supreme Warlord.

Inherited turn (270 BC): King Alexanderqin scoffs at the notion of training swordsmen when we can have regiments of proud and fast horsemen instead. All Swordsmen production was vetoed and switched to Horsemen due to their speed and retreat capabilities. Japan is an open land and I value manouverability higher.

250 BC (1): The King notes that the Japs seem to have targetted Delphi and directs available forces in that direction. He keeps two archer regiments in the south for protection though. An immense battle starts at Delphi and our Horsemen prove their value as the rout a regiment of Archers. The Japs then strike back against Delphi itself losing two Archers before killing off one of our Hoplites.

230 BC (2): Argh. Our Golden Age is at an end A new Hoplite is completed at Delphi and I start yet another. The wounded Jap archer retreats and I can't kill him off due to lack of offensive units.

210 BC (3): Yet another Japanese Archer dies at Delphi. The countryside is running red with the blood of dead Japs. That will learn them not to mess with the mighty Greeks. :skull:

190 BC (4): I set up a meeting with Hammurabi of the Babylonians. It has been some time since last and I wish to know what they have learned. Amazingly enough we have a big tech lead over them despite the fact that they are scientific and at peace. Not bad. I sell him knowledge of the Wheel and he is so pleased about it that they teach us Mysticism (ohhh....) and give us a copy of their World Map as well as 40 bars of gold. A good trade if I do say so myself. Unfortunately my attempt to get the stranded Warrior home leaves him annoyed. A gift of two gold doesn't help much.

170 BC (5): A Horseman is completed at Thermopylae and training of another regiment is started. Near Delphi we kill two more enemy Archers and down south we take out a regiment of Spearmen near Osaka.

150 BC (6): We construct a wonder of the World. Dwarfing Athens the mighty Pyramids now stand tall and promise prosperity in the Greek Empire. Wishing to contribute more to the wareffort the citizens of Athens start training Horsemen. Down south yet another Jap Spearman is killed. The Warlord is pleased at the rates the Japanese units are destroyed with only minimal losses of Greek lives.

130 BC (7): The War pauses a bit and the Warlord takes the opportunity to return to Athens for a bath.

110 BC (8): Hoplite built in Delphi. With the Japanese attavks stopping production is switched to Horsemen. It is time to take the fight to them. In the south our brave Archers attack a Jap Spearman escorting settlers south. He is victorious and with the destruction of their escort the Japs surrender. The surviving settlers are formed into two workgroups and sent into Greece as slave labour.

90 BC (9): The First Athens Horse Brigade is formed and the people cheer. I notice that the city has reached it limit for growth and something needs to be done so it wont be wasted. Calls are made for volunteers to settle in the soon-to-be Greek province of Japan. Togugawa then comes requesting an audience. I grant him his request and hears him our. He wants peace. Bah! Humbug! It is only because that we have taken the offensive. I send him running back home for Japan to face total humiliation as we conquer them.

70 BC (10): Our mystics come to me showing me some round metal pieces. I wonder what good they are and they tell me that they can be exchanged for goods and are called currency. I don't see why someone should accept a small piece of metal for goods, but they tell me it will be a big hit. Whatever. I tell them to get back to work and start working our a set of laws we can use when we have to govern the Japanese. It is a good year this one. I don't understand the concept of those coins, but I do understand that we now have two more brigades of Horsemen trained. As I watch them parade through Delphi on the way to the frontline a messenger then arrives bringing good news. The town of Edo has fallen to our mighty soldiers and been razed to the ground (autoraze. Nothing I could do). Payback for Knossos. To make it even better there were no Greek units lost in the fight. A message form Hammurabi congratulates us on our victory and I'm pleased to see that he is now polite again.

50 BC (11): A quiet year. Corinth finishes Horsemen and starts work on temple in my honour.

30 BC (12): Athens have finally gathered enough volunteers to form a band of settlers. The men start out toward Delphi where they will await escort from a regiment of Hoplites. In Athens construction is started on a marketplace where the people can exchange their goods to the benefit of all.

10 BC (13): Our southern army prepares to march on Osake and starts out by slaying two enemy regiments of archers clearing the way.

10 AD (14): The Warlord considers the fact that this Christ has now been born and things are still the same. He decides that religion is useless and only good for starting weird rumours.

30 AD (15): Civil disorder in Thermopylae (Whoops). Delphi completes horsemen and starts building a Hoplite to escort the settlers. The attack on Osaka is started and one defending unit of Spearmen are killed. Meanwhile the northern amry is advancing on Kagoshima. The Warlord is expecting an easy conquest and rides out to survey the battlefield. Sadly he then dies as his horse stumbles in a hole and crushed him under it as it fell. He lived for the horses and were now killed by one. Quite appropriate.

Well, the situation is this. There are a large army in both the north and the south advancing on Kagoshima and Osaka. Both cities should soon fall and then we might consider going for Kyoto. We should win this war now and still have a very large army. It might be an idea to take out the Babs when we're done with the Japs. By the way. Before taking the last Japanese city we ought to sell the Babs communications with them and make a profit while we still can. Good luck

 

[Harleqin]

And here is the savefile.

 

[Harleqin]

We will also need to decide whether or not we should patch to version 1,17f. It might not be the best choice as I've been a large army of Horsemen and losing the retreat option will weaken our campaign severely. If we are to upgrade then I'd like it to be an unanimous (I'm pretty sure I just spelled that wrong) decision.

 

[EmprorCoopinius]

Got it.

I vote we at least get rid of the Japs before we upgrade. My 2 cents.

 

[Thrawn]

Same here. Get rid of the japs first. Then upgrade.

 

[Exsanguination]

I would like not to, but I already upgraded... is that a problem?

 

[EmprorCoopinius]

As the war with Japan continued, the Greek people looked for a King who could crush the imprudent Japanese and bring peace and prosperity to the continent. Once again the first family of Sparta, that of Leonidas, the second Greek king, is called upon to lead Greece. The new heir, christened Leonidas II, took his throne in 50 AD.

50 AD - the King orders the road leading from Delphi to the former site of Knossos be reconnected. Two regiments of horse also were sent south to menace the lands around Kyoto, and the Northern Army attacked Kagoshima.

70 AD - a lone Japanese spearman captures one of our workers , the Southern Army attacks and razes Osaka, one of our horseman regiments outside Kyoto repulses an archer attack and becomes elite.

90 AD - Greek forces in the field pause to rest and receive replacements for casualties. Many Greeks have died, but many more Japanese lie dead upon the battlegrounds. Horseman regiments around Kyoto pillage the roads and mines, leaving the countryside bare. The same Japanese spearman pillages one of our roads.

110 AD - research is begun on map making by order of the King. A veteran swordsman regiment attacks the lone Japanese spearman unit in our territory from a hill and loses. Knossos refounded in its' original spot, our culture pushes the barbarous Japanese customs back.

130 AD - troop deployment throughout the continent

150 AD - more troop deployment, the last road into Kyoto cut.

170 AD - after four regiments of horse attack Kagoshima, and all 4 are repelled with heavy losses, the King suspends all recruitment of horseman regiments and commands swordsman regiments to be raised instead.

190 AD - the Babylonians establish Lagash in the southern tundra.

210 AD - yet more troop movement, one of our elite archers is massacred by a regular archer outside Kyoto.

230 AD - nothing

250 AD - the first attacks on Kyoto commence.

260 AD - troop movement, first swordman regiments taking the field.

270 AD - troop....movement..... research begun on construction. agree to trade territory maps with the Babylonians.

280 AD - Kagosima razed, 20,000 slaves taken (2 workers)

290 AD - work gangs reconnect and widen the Greek road network, a temple is begun in Knossos.

300 AD - troop deployment, Japanese make landing north of Corinth, one archer regiment.

310 AD - invading archers routed by Greek swordmen. A new horseman regiemnt becomes elite south of Kyoto. The Iroquios finished the Great Library.

320 AD - troop deployment

330 AD - A hoplite is given marching orders from Athens to Pharsalos (goto order), and finallly Kyoto falls to the might of Greek arms! We hear also that the French have completed the Great Wall.

340 AD - a trade is arranged with the Babylonians, giving them mathematics in exchange for literature. King Leonidas II visits the newly captured Japanese capitol, but is assassinated by Japanese dissidents still in the city. A nation mourns, and prepares to exact final vengeance upon the Japanese.

Comments: I've got settlers building, and one's already heading south to recolonize the former Japanese territory. The Babs are sending settlers south too, let's get to it before they do. Japan is pretty much finished...they have no offensive capability. The forces in the field now should be adequate to finish them off. Happy hunting.

 

[EmprorCoopinius]

Und the game.

 

[TG Cid]

Well, my turn wasn't all too exciting, just trying to expand into former Japanese land before those pesky Babs could get their galleys there. Here goes:

350 AD: The assassination of the late King Leonidas II causes panic in the streets of Athens. Luckily, Leonida's most trusted and powerful vassal, Duke Vormav, was able to take control of the Empire, avoiding Civil War. His first course of action as the new King was to develop a strict policy of keeping the Babylonians out of Greece's land. Immediately he sent a messanger to demand the Settlers leave Greece's land without befouling it. He then ordered troops to be fortified near Tokyo. Our Horseman caught a fleeing Settler attempting to escape from the doomed city, and enslaved them .

370 AD: Tokyo is destroyed, but heavy casualties are suffered by the Greeks. However, King Vormav visits the troops in person, inspiring them to push forth and destroy Japan once and for all! Touched by his powerfully delivered speech, the army marched on towards, Nara, the last Japanese city. Upon returning to Athens, Vormav is greeted by a messanger who says the Germans, who are settled on a faraway land have built the magnificent structure, the Colossus, an envy of the world. Vormav scoffs and says no wonder in the world can beat the architectural skill and cultural power of Athen's Pyramids.

390 AD: Nara is surrounded and razed (by default). Only one archer is lost in the battle, and the Japanese have been wiped off the face of the planet !! Much rejoicing is done in Athens especially as General Kletian, King Vormav's military advisor is hailed and welcomed home. Most of the troops have been sent to Sparta in preperation for a possible offensive against the Babylonians.

400 AD: His majesty has ordered several cities to recruit adventerous people who seek another life to settle the former Japanese lands before the Babylonians do. Argos is founded by the Japanese spices and a Swordsman from the battle is used to guard it temporarily until a Hoplite regiment can be assembled.

410 AD: Aggressive by nature, Vormav "retaliated" against Babylonian expansion in the southern part of the continent by founding the city of Mycenae in the Babylonian forest.

420 AD: King Vormav, wanting to improve Greco-Babylonian relations, for the time being, establishes an embassy in Babylon.

440 AD: A messanger appears before the royal court to alert Vormav that "Construction" has been discovered. They say that with this new-found knowledge, our people can create aqueducts, mighty bridge-like structures capable of bringing in fresh water to our cities. Vormav is impressed, and gives orders to begin research in "Polytheism".

450 AD: Herakleia founded. Most of the subcontinent has been claimed by the Greeks, however, the Babylonians have settled on the outskirts...

460 AD: Although known to be a benevolent King, Vormav grows impatient with the much-needed production of a courthouse in Pharsalos and whips the population into producing it.

500 AD: Polytheism discovered at long last! Vormav gazes in amazement as the mighty Greek Civilization "advances" to the so-called "Middle Ages". Being Scientific by nature, King Vormav's Science Advisor, Radcliff, got his scholars to learn "Monotheism" soonafter. Although a new window of oppurtunity and technology is opened before him, Vormav goes back to the Ancient times to research "Monarchy", believing that it's benefits outweighed that of a Despotism. Content with his progress, the old King chooses to step down, as he has done all he had intended, and is satisfied.